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Dr. Margaret G. Klitzke is a board-certified child and adolescent psychiatrist who has worked across all settings of the Center for Autism and Developmental Disabilities at Bradley Hospital in East Providence, R.I.

Dr. Margaret G. Klitzke, a psychiatrist in East Providence, R.I.
Courtesy Dr. Margaret G. Klitzke
Dr. Margaret G. Klitzke

I spoke with Dr. Klitzke recently about her work as an outpatient psychiatrist at the center and about the important role of families in the treatment it provides. The center offers highly specialized clinical services for children and adolescents between the ages of 2 and 18 who show signs of serious emotional and behavioral problems in addition to a developmental disability, such as autism, Asperger’s, or intellectual disability.

Dr. Alison Heru, professor of psychiatry at the University of Colorado at Denver, Aurora
Dr. Alison Heru


The center’s model of care emphasizes family involvement. Dr. Klitzke was trained in family interventions by Nathan B. Epstein, MD, and Duane S. Bishop, MD, the originators of the McMaster approach and the problem-centered systems therapy of the family. This training informs much of her work with families.
 

ALISON M. HERU, MD: Hello, Dr. Klitzke and thank you for agreeing to this interview.

MARGARET G. KLITZKE, DO: My pleasure.

AMH: I admire your dedication to this population of children and adolescents. To me, it seems very hard to work with patients and families where there is significant disability and there is little hope of the patient “getting better.”

MGK: When parents come to us, they have great hopes their children can be helped. They often express understanding and acceptance of the child’s disability, and seek to understand the psychiatric or behavioral issues. These parents are often very dedicated to their children, giving up careers to care for them. But as professionals, we must be sensitive to the role each parent can play and how they can support each other and the family.

AMH: So much of your work focuses on family inclusion and family psychoeducation?

MGK: Yes. An example that stands out is a couple where the mother had become the voice for the family in dealing with professionals, but she was overwhelmed in this role. So, we invited the father in. He explained that medical professionals and school personnel would address their remarks to his wife and that he felt marginalized. We worked with the couple, now always including the father, and he has gone on to become a vocal advocate for children with disabilities. It is inspiring to watch families become advocates – to insist that others see the child’s strengths – not just weaknesses.

AMH: Do you feel that the families ever come to you with too high expectations of what you can do to help their child?

MGK: As a child psychiatrist, one must put oneself in the parents’ shoes. Charlie Zeanah Jr., MD, and others have done wonderful work in attachment. They have identified that parents have fantasies and beliefs about what the child will be like before the child is born. We all have fantasies about our babies before they come to us! For many families, they quickly come to understand that their child is not like other children. This new world of parenting is not what they expected. A mother once gave me a short piece called “Welcome to Holland,” written by a mother whose child has Down syndrome.

 

 

AMH: How do you begin to work with these families? There must be such a sense of loss and tragedy in their lives.

MGK: My first goal is to understand what it is like to have a child with developmental disability, not just for the parents but for the siblings, too. I strive to understand what the parents want for their child and how they see themselves as a family. I see us, the health care team, as agents to help the child and the family be the very best they can be.

AMH: How do you deal with parents who are not be on the same page?

MGK: It is important that parents are consistent and are able to work together. Even if they are divorced, I have seen families able to unite around the care of their child with a disability. This is quite an achievement given the high rates of divorce – although most of the families that I have worked with are intact. As in all families, each member has a role in helping the family function well. It means using the strength of each parent to help them become a parenting team.

AMH: What if the parents have unrealistic expectations of their child?

MGK: Yes, there are parents who come to us with unrealistic expectations, such as believing their nonverbal child will talk some day. In such a case, we must be certain that we have exhausted all methods to help this child communicate, and once we have done all we can, then we must accept where that child is; to accept and help the family accept, the child’s weaknesses and acknowledge their strengths. Change what you can and be a support for everything else.

AMH: I find it hard to imagine caring for a severely disabled child. How do these parents do this?

MGK: These are children who are nonverbal, and children who can be very fragile, even medically. What I see are parents who want to connect, who want to find that something inside that child, that special place where there is connection. That place of reciprocity. That is important to us all, helping the family find that place of reciprocal connection.

AMH: What language do you use to discuss this with families?

MGK: I say, “This is the child’s strength and this is the child’s weakness; capitalize on the strengths and let’s shore up their weaknesses.”

AMH: How do you approach the families? Where do you start?

MGK: I meet the family where they are. One cannot with these families or any families stand rigidly 10 feet away, and demand that they change. This never works, and we will be of no help to them. We must understand the family system and how they have arrived at their current place of functioning.

AMH: Can you give an example?

MGK: Yes, for example if a parent is drinking excessively, I help them understand why they are coping that way and see if they are willing to change.

 

 

AMH: What keeps you going ?

MGK: I think it comes back to the family work. For me, I believe the families are doing the very best they can. If the family is really impaired in some way, I see it as my job to figure out why that is their pattern of behavior, and I do what I can to help them facilitate change.

AMH: What inspires you about these families?

MGK: These families are able to recognize the strengths and beauty that their children bring them – the strength of these children, their personalities and their wills of steel! They are able to communicate what they need. Siblings, too, make life decisions based on their experiences. They often end up going down the path of caring for such children as professionals.

AMH: Do you have any recommendations for a young child psychiatrist who might be considering working with this population?

MGK: Developmental disabilities in child psychiatry is where medicine, neurology, and child development meet. The advances in genetics and neurology are major gifts to the field. It used to be that I would have to sell the field to medical students and residents. Now they are coming to me saying that they want to work in this area. It is an intellectually rich field in which to work. There is a real change happening. But the place where it becomes really magical is in working with the families.

AMH: What other changes have you seen?

MGK: With the closure of big institutions, it is less of an option for families to walk away. The families now feel that they need to take care of the child.

AMH: What has your career taught you?

MGK: These children and their families made us better people. It has taught me patience, to enter every situation without preconceived notions, and that there is something new to learn every day.

References

J Child Adolesc Psychiatry. 1975 Jun 1;14(3):387-421.

Evaluation and Treating Families: The McMaster Approach. Routledge/Taylor & Francis Group, 2005.

Movies to watch

Lorenzo’s Oil, 1992.

My Left Foot, 1989.

Dr. Heru is professor of psychiatry at the University of Colorado at Denver, Aurora. She is editor of “Working With Families in Medical Settings: A Multidisciplinary Guide for Psychiatrists and Other Health Professionals” (Routledge, 2013). She has no conflicts of interest.

Dr. Klitkze is a 1983 graduate of the Texas College of Osteopathic Medicine, and completed her residency and fellowship training at Brown University, Providence, R.I. She is a member of the American Psychiatric Association, the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry, and the Rhode Island Medical Society, where she serves on the Physicians’ Health Committee. She is actively involved in teaching medical students, residents, and fellows, and has received several teaching awards from the department of psychiatry and human behavior at Brown.

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Dr. Margaret G. Klitzke is a board-certified child and adolescent psychiatrist who has worked across all settings of the Center for Autism and Developmental Disabilities at Bradley Hospital in East Providence, R.I.

Dr. Margaret G. Klitzke, a psychiatrist in East Providence, R.I.
Courtesy Dr. Margaret G. Klitzke
Dr. Margaret G. Klitzke

I spoke with Dr. Klitzke recently about her work as an outpatient psychiatrist at the center and about the important role of families in the treatment it provides. The center offers highly specialized clinical services for children and adolescents between the ages of 2 and 18 who show signs of serious emotional and behavioral problems in addition to a developmental disability, such as autism, Asperger’s, or intellectual disability.

Dr. Alison Heru, professor of psychiatry at the University of Colorado at Denver, Aurora
Dr. Alison Heru


The center’s model of care emphasizes family involvement. Dr. Klitzke was trained in family interventions by Nathan B. Epstein, MD, and Duane S. Bishop, MD, the originators of the McMaster approach and the problem-centered systems therapy of the family. This training informs much of her work with families.
 

ALISON M. HERU, MD: Hello, Dr. Klitzke and thank you for agreeing to this interview.

MARGARET G. KLITZKE, DO: My pleasure.

AMH: I admire your dedication to this population of children and adolescents. To me, it seems very hard to work with patients and families where there is significant disability and there is little hope of the patient “getting better.”

MGK: When parents come to us, they have great hopes their children can be helped. They often express understanding and acceptance of the child’s disability, and seek to understand the psychiatric or behavioral issues. These parents are often very dedicated to their children, giving up careers to care for them. But as professionals, we must be sensitive to the role each parent can play and how they can support each other and the family.

AMH: So much of your work focuses on family inclusion and family psychoeducation?

MGK: Yes. An example that stands out is a couple where the mother had become the voice for the family in dealing with professionals, but she was overwhelmed in this role. So, we invited the father in. He explained that medical professionals and school personnel would address their remarks to his wife and that he felt marginalized. We worked with the couple, now always including the father, and he has gone on to become a vocal advocate for children with disabilities. It is inspiring to watch families become advocates – to insist that others see the child’s strengths – not just weaknesses.

AMH: Do you feel that the families ever come to you with too high expectations of what you can do to help their child?

MGK: As a child psychiatrist, one must put oneself in the parents’ shoes. Charlie Zeanah Jr., MD, and others have done wonderful work in attachment. They have identified that parents have fantasies and beliefs about what the child will be like before the child is born. We all have fantasies about our babies before they come to us! For many families, they quickly come to understand that their child is not like other children. This new world of parenting is not what they expected. A mother once gave me a short piece called “Welcome to Holland,” written by a mother whose child has Down syndrome.

 

 

AMH: How do you begin to work with these families? There must be such a sense of loss and tragedy in their lives.

MGK: My first goal is to understand what it is like to have a child with developmental disability, not just for the parents but for the siblings, too. I strive to understand what the parents want for their child and how they see themselves as a family. I see us, the health care team, as agents to help the child and the family be the very best they can be.

AMH: How do you deal with parents who are not be on the same page?

MGK: It is important that parents are consistent and are able to work together. Even if they are divorced, I have seen families able to unite around the care of their child with a disability. This is quite an achievement given the high rates of divorce – although most of the families that I have worked with are intact. As in all families, each member has a role in helping the family function well. It means using the strength of each parent to help them become a parenting team.

AMH: What if the parents have unrealistic expectations of their child?

MGK: Yes, there are parents who come to us with unrealistic expectations, such as believing their nonverbal child will talk some day. In such a case, we must be certain that we have exhausted all methods to help this child communicate, and once we have done all we can, then we must accept where that child is; to accept and help the family accept, the child’s weaknesses and acknowledge their strengths. Change what you can and be a support for everything else.

AMH: I find it hard to imagine caring for a severely disabled child. How do these parents do this?

MGK: These are children who are nonverbal, and children who can be very fragile, even medically. What I see are parents who want to connect, who want to find that something inside that child, that special place where there is connection. That place of reciprocity. That is important to us all, helping the family find that place of reciprocal connection.

AMH: What language do you use to discuss this with families?

MGK: I say, “This is the child’s strength and this is the child’s weakness; capitalize on the strengths and let’s shore up their weaknesses.”

AMH: How do you approach the families? Where do you start?

MGK: I meet the family where they are. One cannot with these families or any families stand rigidly 10 feet away, and demand that they change. This never works, and we will be of no help to them. We must understand the family system and how they have arrived at their current place of functioning.

AMH: Can you give an example?

MGK: Yes, for example if a parent is drinking excessively, I help them understand why they are coping that way and see if they are willing to change.

 

 

AMH: What keeps you going ?

MGK: I think it comes back to the family work. For me, I believe the families are doing the very best they can. If the family is really impaired in some way, I see it as my job to figure out why that is their pattern of behavior, and I do what I can to help them facilitate change.

AMH: What inspires you about these families?

MGK: These families are able to recognize the strengths and beauty that their children bring them – the strength of these children, their personalities and their wills of steel! They are able to communicate what they need. Siblings, too, make life decisions based on their experiences. They often end up going down the path of caring for such children as professionals.

AMH: Do you have any recommendations for a young child psychiatrist who might be considering working with this population?

MGK: Developmental disabilities in child psychiatry is where medicine, neurology, and child development meet. The advances in genetics and neurology are major gifts to the field. It used to be that I would have to sell the field to medical students and residents. Now they are coming to me saying that they want to work in this area. It is an intellectually rich field in which to work. There is a real change happening. But the place where it becomes really magical is in working with the families.

AMH: What other changes have you seen?

MGK: With the closure of big institutions, it is less of an option for families to walk away. The families now feel that they need to take care of the child.

AMH: What has your career taught you?

MGK: These children and their families made us better people. It has taught me patience, to enter every situation without preconceived notions, and that there is something new to learn every day.

References

J Child Adolesc Psychiatry. 1975 Jun 1;14(3):387-421.

Evaluation and Treating Families: The McMaster Approach. Routledge/Taylor & Francis Group, 2005.

Movies to watch

Lorenzo’s Oil, 1992.

My Left Foot, 1989.

Dr. Heru is professor of psychiatry at the University of Colorado at Denver, Aurora. She is editor of “Working With Families in Medical Settings: A Multidisciplinary Guide for Psychiatrists and Other Health Professionals” (Routledge, 2013). She has no conflicts of interest.

Dr. Klitkze is a 1983 graduate of the Texas College of Osteopathic Medicine, and completed her residency and fellowship training at Brown University, Providence, R.I. She is a member of the American Psychiatric Association, the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry, and the Rhode Island Medical Society, where she serves on the Physicians’ Health Committee. She is actively involved in teaching medical students, residents, and fellows, and has received several teaching awards from the department of psychiatry and human behavior at Brown.

Dr. Margaret G. Klitzke is a board-certified child and adolescent psychiatrist who has worked across all settings of the Center for Autism and Developmental Disabilities at Bradley Hospital in East Providence, R.I.

Dr. Margaret G. Klitzke, a psychiatrist in East Providence, R.I.
Courtesy Dr. Margaret G. Klitzke
Dr. Margaret G. Klitzke

I spoke with Dr. Klitzke recently about her work as an outpatient psychiatrist at the center and about the important role of families in the treatment it provides. The center offers highly specialized clinical services for children and adolescents between the ages of 2 and 18 who show signs of serious emotional and behavioral problems in addition to a developmental disability, such as autism, Asperger’s, or intellectual disability.

Dr. Alison Heru, professor of psychiatry at the University of Colorado at Denver, Aurora
Dr. Alison Heru


The center’s model of care emphasizes family involvement. Dr. Klitzke was trained in family interventions by Nathan B. Epstein, MD, and Duane S. Bishop, MD, the originators of the McMaster approach and the problem-centered systems therapy of the family. This training informs much of her work with families.
 

ALISON M. HERU, MD: Hello, Dr. Klitzke and thank you for agreeing to this interview.

MARGARET G. KLITZKE, DO: My pleasure.

AMH: I admire your dedication to this population of children and adolescents. To me, it seems very hard to work with patients and families where there is significant disability and there is little hope of the patient “getting better.”

MGK: When parents come to us, they have great hopes their children can be helped. They often express understanding and acceptance of the child’s disability, and seek to understand the psychiatric or behavioral issues. These parents are often very dedicated to their children, giving up careers to care for them. But as professionals, we must be sensitive to the role each parent can play and how they can support each other and the family.

AMH: So much of your work focuses on family inclusion and family psychoeducation?

MGK: Yes. An example that stands out is a couple where the mother had become the voice for the family in dealing with professionals, but she was overwhelmed in this role. So, we invited the father in. He explained that medical professionals and school personnel would address their remarks to his wife and that he felt marginalized. We worked with the couple, now always including the father, and he has gone on to become a vocal advocate for children with disabilities. It is inspiring to watch families become advocates – to insist that others see the child’s strengths – not just weaknesses.

AMH: Do you feel that the families ever come to you with too high expectations of what you can do to help their child?

MGK: As a child psychiatrist, one must put oneself in the parents’ shoes. Charlie Zeanah Jr., MD, and others have done wonderful work in attachment. They have identified that parents have fantasies and beliefs about what the child will be like before the child is born. We all have fantasies about our babies before they come to us! For many families, they quickly come to understand that their child is not like other children. This new world of parenting is not what they expected. A mother once gave me a short piece called “Welcome to Holland,” written by a mother whose child has Down syndrome.

 

 

AMH: How do you begin to work with these families? There must be such a sense of loss and tragedy in their lives.

MGK: My first goal is to understand what it is like to have a child with developmental disability, not just for the parents but for the siblings, too. I strive to understand what the parents want for their child and how they see themselves as a family. I see us, the health care team, as agents to help the child and the family be the very best they can be.

AMH: How do you deal with parents who are not be on the same page?

MGK: It is important that parents are consistent and are able to work together. Even if they are divorced, I have seen families able to unite around the care of their child with a disability. This is quite an achievement given the high rates of divorce – although most of the families that I have worked with are intact. As in all families, each member has a role in helping the family function well. It means using the strength of each parent to help them become a parenting team.

AMH: What if the parents have unrealistic expectations of their child?

MGK: Yes, there are parents who come to us with unrealistic expectations, such as believing their nonverbal child will talk some day. In such a case, we must be certain that we have exhausted all methods to help this child communicate, and once we have done all we can, then we must accept where that child is; to accept and help the family accept, the child’s weaknesses and acknowledge their strengths. Change what you can and be a support for everything else.

AMH: I find it hard to imagine caring for a severely disabled child. How do these parents do this?

MGK: These are children who are nonverbal, and children who can be very fragile, even medically. What I see are parents who want to connect, who want to find that something inside that child, that special place where there is connection. That place of reciprocity. That is important to us all, helping the family find that place of reciprocal connection.

AMH: What language do you use to discuss this with families?

MGK: I say, “This is the child’s strength and this is the child’s weakness; capitalize on the strengths and let’s shore up their weaknesses.”

AMH: How do you approach the families? Where do you start?

MGK: I meet the family where they are. One cannot with these families or any families stand rigidly 10 feet away, and demand that they change. This never works, and we will be of no help to them. We must understand the family system and how they have arrived at their current place of functioning.

AMH: Can you give an example?

MGK: Yes, for example if a parent is drinking excessively, I help them understand why they are coping that way and see if they are willing to change.

 

 

AMH: What keeps you going ?

MGK: I think it comes back to the family work. For me, I believe the families are doing the very best they can. If the family is really impaired in some way, I see it as my job to figure out why that is their pattern of behavior, and I do what I can to help them facilitate change.

AMH: What inspires you about these families?

MGK: These families are able to recognize the strengths and beauty that their children bring them – the strength of these children, their personalities and their wills of steel! They are able to communicate what they need. Siblings, too, make life decisions based on their experiences. They often end up going down the path of caring for such children as professionals.

AMH: Do you have any recommendations for a young child psychiatrist who might be considering working with this population?

MGK: Developmental disabilities in child psychiatry is where medicine, neurology, and child development meet. The advances in genetics and neurology are major gifts to the field. It used to be that I would have to sell the field to medical students and residents. Now they are coming to me saying that they want to work in this area. It is an intellectually rich field in which to work. There is a real change happening. But the place where it becomes really magical is in working with the families.

AMH: What other changes have you seen?

MGK: With the closure of big institutions, it is less of an option for families to walk away. The families now feel that they need to take care of the child.

AMH: What has your career taught you?

MGK: These children and their families made us better people. It has taught me patience, to enter every situation without preconceived notions, and that there is something new to learn every day.

References

J Child Adolesc Psychiatry. 1975 Jun 1;14(3):387-421.

Evaluation and Treating Families: The McMaster Approach. Routledge/Taylor & Francis Group, 2005.

Movies to watch

Lorenzo’s Oil, 1992.

My Left Foot, 1989.

Dr. Heru is professor of psychiatry at the University of Colorado at Denver, Aurora. She is editor of “Working With Families in Medical Settings: A Multidisciplinary Guide for Psychiatrists and Other Health Professionals” (Routledge, 2013). She has no conflicts of interest.

Dr. Klitkze is a 1983 graduate of the Texas College of Osteopathic Medicine, and completed her residency and fellowship training at Brown University, Providence, R.I. She is a member of the American Psychiatric Association, the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry, and the Rhode Island Medical Society, where she serves on the Physicians’ Health Committee. She is actively involved in teaching medical students, residents, and fellows, and has received several teaching awards from the department of psychiatry and human behavior at Brown.

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