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Rosacea and the gut: Looking into SIBO
, according to speakers at the annual Integrative Dermatology Symposium.
“SIBO is definitely something we test for and treat,” Raja Sivamani, MD, said in an interview after the meeting. Dr. Sivamani practices as an integrative dermatologist at the Pacific Skin Institute in Sacramento and is the director of clinical research at the institute’s research unit, Integrative Skin Science and Research. He led a panel discussion on rosacea and acne at the meeting.
Associations between SIBO and several dermatologic conditions, including systemic sclerosis, have been reported, but the strongest evidence to date involves rosacea. “There’s associative epidemiological evidence showing higher rates of SIBO among those with rosacea, and there are prospective studies” showing clearance of rosacea in patients treated for SIBO, said Dr. Sivamani, also adjunct associate professor of clinical dermatology at the University of California, Davis.
Studies are small, but are “well done and well-designed,” he said in the interview. “Do we need more studies? Absolutely. But what we have now is compelling [enough] for us to take a look at it.”
Findings of rosacea clearance
SIBO’s believed contribution to the pathophysiology of rosacea is part of the increasingly described gut microbiome-skin axis. SIBO has been recognized as a medical phenomenon for many decades and has been defined as an excessive bacterial load in the small bowel that causes gastrointestinal symptoms, according to the 2020 American College of Gastroenterology clinical guideline on SIBO.
Symptoms commonly associated with SIBO overlap with the cardinal symptoms of irritable bowel syndrome (IBS): abdominal pain; diarrhea, constipation, or both; bloating; and flatulence. SIBO can be diagnosed with several validated carbohydrate substrate (glucose or lactulose)–based breath tests that measure hydrogen and/or methane.
Hydrogen-positive breath tests suggest bacterial overgrowth, and methane-positive breath tests suggest small intestinal methanogen overgrowth. Methane is increasingly important and recognized, the AGA guideline says, though it creates a “nomenclature problem in the SIBO framework” because methanogens are not bacteria, the authors note.
In conventional practice, SIBO is typically treated with antibiotics such as rifaximin, and often with short-term dietary modification as well. Integrative medicine typically considers the use of supplements and botanicals in addition to or instead of antibiotics, as well as dietary change and increasingly, a close look at SIBO risk factors to prevent recurrence, Dr. Sivamani said. (His research unit is currently studying the use of herbal protocols as an alternative to antibiotics in patients with SIBO and dermatologic conditions.)
During a presentation on rosacea at the meeting, Neal Bhatia, MD, director of clinical dermatology at Therapeutics Clinical Research, a dermatology treatment and research center in San Diego, said that currently available breath tests for SIBO “are very interesting tools for understanding what may be happening in the gut” and that the “rifaximin data are good.”
He referred to a study reported in the Journal of the American Academy of Dermatology showing that patients with rosacea were significantly more likely to have SIBO (41.7% of 48 patients vs. 5.0% of 40 controls; P < .001), and that 64.5% of rosacea patients who completed treatment with rifaximin had remission of rosacea at a 3-year follow-up.
An earlier crossover study is also notable, he said. This study enrolled 113 consecutive patients with rosacea and 60 age- and sex-matched controls, and randomized those with SIBO (52 of the 113 with rosacea vs. 3 of the 60 controls) to rifaximin or placebo. Rosacea cleared in 20 of the 28 patients in the rifaximin group and greatly improved in 6 of the 28. Of 20 patients in the placebo group, rosacea remained unchanged in 18 and worsened in 2. When patients in the placebo group were switched to rifaximin, SIBO was eradicated in 17 of the 20, and rosacea completely resolved in 15 of those patients, Dr. Bhatia said.
In his view, it will take more time, greater awareness of the rosacea-SIBO link, and a willingness “to take chances” for more dermatologists to consider SIBO during rosacea care. “Breath tests are not something used in the [typical dermatology] clinic right now, but they may make their way in,” he said at the meeting.
In a follow-up interview, Dr. Bhatia emphasized that “it’s really a question of uptake, which always takes a while” and of willingness to “think through the disease from another angle ... especially in patients who are recalcitrant.”
Treatment
Dr. Sivamani said in the interview that a third type of SIBO – hydrogen sulfide–dominant SIBO – is now documented and worth considering when glucose and lactulose breath tests are negative in patients with rosacea who have gastrointestinal symptoms.
The use of breath tests to objectively diagnose SIBO is always best, Dr. Sivamani said, but he will consider empiric therapy in some patients. “I always tell patients [about] the benefits of testing, but if they can’t get the test covered or are unable to pay for the test, and they have symptoms consistent with SIBO, I’m okay doing a trial with therapy,” he said.
Rifaximin, one of the suggested antibiotics listed in the AGA guideline, is a nonabsorbable antibiotic that is FDA-approved for IBS with diarrhea (IBS-D); it has been shown to not negatively affect the growth of beneficial bacteria in the colon.
However, herbals are also an attractive option – alone or in combination with rifaximin or other antibiotics – speakers at the meeting said. In a multicenter retrospective chart review led by investigators at the Johns Hopkins Hospital, herbal therapies were at least as effective as rifaximin for treating SIBO, with similar safety profiles. The response rate for normalizing breath hydrogen testing in patients with SIBO was 46% for herbal therapies and 34% for rifaximin.
Dietary change is also part of treatment, with the reduction of fermentable carbohydrates – often through the Low FODMAP Diet and Specific Carbohydrate Diet – being the dominant theme in dietary intervention for SIBO, according to the AGA guideline.
“There are definitely some food choices you can shift,” said Dr. Sivamani. “I’ll work with patients on FODMAP, though it’s hard to sustain over the long-term and can induce psychological issues. You have to provide other options.”
Dr. Sivamani works with patients on using “a restrictive diet for a short amount of time, with the gradual reintroduction of foods to see [what] foods are and aren’t [causing] flares.” He also works to identify and eliminate risk factors and predisposing factors for SIBO so that recurrence will be less likely.
“SIBO is definitely an entity that is not on the fringes anymore ... it adds to inflammation in the body ... and if you have an inflamed gut, there’s a domino effect that will lead to inflammation elsewhere,” Dr. Sivamani said.
“You want to know, do your patients have SIBO? What subset do they have? Do they have risk factors you can eliminate?” he said. “And then what therapies will you use – pharmaceuticals, supplements and botanicals, or a combination? And finally, what will you do with diet?”
Dr. Bhatia disclosed he has affiliations with Abbvie, Almirall, Arcutis, Arena, Biofrontera, BMS, BI, Brickell, Dermavant, EPI Health, Ferndale, Galderma, Genentech, InCyte, ISDIN, Johnson & Johnson, LaRoche-Posay, Leo, Lilly, Novartis, Ortho, Pfizer, Proctor & Gamble, Regeneron, Sanofi, Stemline, SunPharma, and Verrica. Dr. Sivamani did not provide a disclosure statement.
, according to speakers at the annual Integrative Dermatology Symposium.
“SIBO is definitely something we test for and treat,” Raja Sivamani, MD, said in an interview after the meeting. Dr. Sivamani practices as an integrative dermatologist at the Pacific Skin Institute in Sacramento and is the director of clinical research at the institute’s research unit, Integrative Skin Science and Research. He led a panel discussion on rosacea and acne at the meeting.
Associations between SIBO and several dermatologic conditions, including systemic sclerosis, have been reported, but the strongest evidence to date involves rosacea. “There’s associative epidemiological evidence showing higher rates of SIBO among those with rosacea, and there are prospective studies” showing clearance of rosacea in patients treated for SIBO, said Dr. Sivamani, also adjunct associate professor of clinical dermatology at the University of California, Davis.
Studies are small, but are “well done and well-designed,” he said in the interview. “Do we need more studies? Absolutely. But what we have now is compelling [enough] for us to take a look at it.”
Findings of rosacea clearance
SIBO’s believed contribution to the pathophysiology of rosacea is part of the increasingly described gut microbiome-skin axis. SIBO has been recognized as a medical phenomenon for many decades and has been defined as an excessive bacterial load in the small bowel that causes gastrointestinal symptoms, according to the 2020 American College of Gastroenterology clinical guideline on SIBO.
Symptoms commonly associated with SIBO overlap with the cardinal symptoms of irritable bowel syndrome (IBS): abdominal pain; diarrhea, constipation, or both; bloating; and flatulence. SIBO can be diagnosed with several validated carbohydrate substrate (glucose or lactulose)–based breath tests that measure hydrogen and/or methane.
Hydrogen-positive breath tests suggest bacterial overgrowth, and methane-positive breath tests suggest small intestinal methanogen overgrowth. Methane is increasingly important and recognized, the AGA guideline says, though it creates a “nomenclature problem in the SIBO framework” because methanogens are not bacteria, the authors note.
In conventional practice, SIBO is typically treated with antibiotics such as rifaximin, and often with short-term dietary modification as well. Integrative medicine typically considers the use of supplements and botanicals in addition to or instead of antibiotics, as well as dietary change and increasingly, a close look at SIBO risk factors to prevent recurrence, Dr. Sivamani said. (His research unit is currently studying the use of herbal protocols as an alternative to antibiotics in patients with SIBO and dermatologic conditions.)
During a presentation on rosacea at the meeting, Neal Bhatia, MD, director of clinical dermatology at Therapeutics Clinical Research, a dermatology treatment and research center in San Diego, said that currently available breath tests for SIBO “are very interesting tools for understanding what may be happening in the gut” and that the “rifaximin data are good.”
He referred to a study reported in the Journal of the American Academy of Dermatology showing that patients with rosacea were significantly more likely to have SIBO (41.7% of 48 patients vs. 5.0% of 40 controls; P < .001), and that 64.5% of rosacea patients who completed treatment with rifaximin had remission of rosacea at a 3-year follow-up.
An earlier crossover study is also notable, he said. This study enrolled 113 consecutive patients with rosacea and 60 age- and sex-matched controls, and randomized those with SIBO (52 of the 113 with rosacea vs. 3 of the 60 controls) to rifaximin or placebo. Rosacea cleared in 20 of the 28 patients in the rifaximin group and greatly improved in 6 of the 28. Of 20 patients in the placebo group, rosacea remained unchanged in 18 and worsened in 2. When patients in the placebo group were switched to rifaximin, SIBO was eradicated in 17 of the 20, and rosacea completely resolved in 15 of those patients, Dr. Bhatia said.
In his view, it will take more time, greater awareness of the rosacea-SIBO link, and a willingness “to take chances” for more dermatologists to consider SIBO during rosacea care. “Breath tests are not something used in the [typical dermatology] clinic right now, but they may make their way in,” he said at the meeting.
In a follow-up interview, Dr. Bhatia emphasized that “it’s really a question of uptake, which always takes a while” and of willingness to “think through the disease from another angle ... especially in patients who are recalcitrant.”
Treatment
Dr. Sivamani said in the interview that a third type of SIBO – hydrogen sulfide–dominant SIBO – is now documented and worth considering when glucose and lactulose breath tests are negative in patients with rosacea who have gastrointestinal symptoms.
The use of breath tests to objectively diagnose SIBO is always best, Dr. Sivamani said, but he will consider empiric therapy in some patients. “I always tell patients [about] the benefits of testing, but if they can’t get the test covered or are unable to pay for the test, and they have symptoms consistent with SIBO, I’m okay doing a trial with therapy,” he said.
Rifaximin, one of the suggested antibiotics listed in the AGA guideline, is a nonabsorbable antibiotic that is FDA-approved for IBS with diarrhea (IBS-D); it has been shown to not negatively affect the growth of beneficial bacteria in the colon.
However, herbals are also an attractive option – alone or in combination with rifaximin or other antibiotics – speakers at the meeting said. In a multicenter retrospective chart review led by investigators at the Johns Hopkins Hospital, herbal therapies were at least as effective as rifaximin for treating SIBO, with similar safety profiles. The response rate for normalizing breath hydrogen testing in patients with SIBO was 46% for herbal therapies and 34% for rifaximin.
Dietary change is also part of treatment, with the reduction of fermentable carbohydrates – often through the Low FODMAP Diet and Specific Carbohydrate Diet – being the dominant theme in dietary intervention for SIBO, according to the AGA guideline.
“There are definitely some food choices you can shift,” said Dr. Sivamani. “I’ll work with patients on FODMAP, though it’s hard to sustain over the long-term and can induce psychological issues. You have to provide other options.”
Dr. Sivamani works with patients on using “a restrictive diet for a short amount of time, with the gradual reintroduction of foods to see [what] foods are and aren’t [causing] flares.” He also works to identify and eliminate risk factors and predisposing factors for SIBO so that recurrence will be less likely.
“SIBO is definitely an entity that is not on the fringes anymore ... it adds to inflammation in the body ... and if you have an inflamed gut, there’s a domino effect that will lead to inflammation elsewhere,” Dr. Sivamani said.
“You want to know, do your patients have SIBO? What subset do they have? Do they have risk factors you can eliminate?” he said. “And then what therapies will you use – pharmaceuticals, supplements and botanicals, or a combination? And finally, what will you do with diet?”
Dr. Bhatia disclosed he has affiliations with Abbvie, Almirall, Arcutis, Arena, Biofrontera, BMS, BI, Brickell, Dermavant, EPI Health, Ferndale, Galderma, Genentech, InCyte, ISDIN, Johnson & Johnson, LaRoche-Posay, Leo, Lilly, Novartis, Ortho, Pfizer, Proctor & Gamble, Regeneron, Sanofi, Stemline, SunPharma, and Verrica. Dr. Sivamani did not provide a disclosure statement.
, according to speakers at the annual Integrative Dermatology Symposium.
“SIBO is definitely something we test for and treat,” Raja Sivamani, MD, said in an interview after the meeting. Dr. Sivamani practices as an integrative dermatologist at the Pacific Skin Institute in Sacramento and is the director of clinical research at the institute’s research unit, Integrative Skin Science and Research. He led a panel discussion on rosacea and acne at the meeting.
Associations between SIBO and several dermatologic conditions, including systemic sclerosis, have been reported, but the strongest evidence to date involves rosacea. “There’s associative epidemiological evidence showing higher rates of SIBO among those with rosacea, and there are prospective studies” showing clearance of rosacea in patients treated for SIBO, said Dr. Sivamani, also adjunct associate professor of clinical dermatology at the University of California, Davis.
Studies are small, but are “well done and well-designed,” he said in the interview. “Do we need more studies? Absolutely. But what we have now is compelling [enough] for us to take a look at it.”
Findings of rosacea clearance
SIBO’s believed contribution to the pathophysiology of rosacea is part of the increasingly described gut microbiome-skin axis. SIBO has been recognized as a medical phenomenon for many decades and has been defined as an excessive bacterial load in the small bowel that causes gastrointestinal symptoms, according to the 2020 American College of Gastroenterology clinical guideline on SIBO.
Symptoms commonly associated with SIBO overlap with the cardinal symptoms of irritable bowel syndrome (IBS): abdominal pain; diarrhea, constipation, or both; bloating; and flatulence. SIBO can be diagnosed with several validated carbohydrate substrate (glucose or lactulose)–based breath tests that measure hydrogen and/or methane.
Hydrogen-positive breath tests suggest bacterial overgrowth, and methane-positive breath tests suggest small intestinal methanogen overgrowth. Methane is increasingly important and recognized, the AGA guideline says, though it creates a “nomenclature problem in the SIBO framework” because methanogens are not bacteria, the authors note.
In conventional practice, SIBO is typically treated with antibiotics such as rifaximin, and often with short-term dietary modification as well. Integrative medicine typically considers the use of supplements and botanicals in addition to or instead of antibiotics, as well as dietary change and increasingly, a close look at SIBO risk factors to prevent recurrence, Dr. Sivamani said. (His research unit is currently studying the use of herbal protocols as an alternative to antibiotics in patients with SIBO and dermatologic conditions.)
During a presentation on rosacea at the meeting, Neal Bhatia, MD, director of clinical dermatology at Therapeutics Clinical Research, a dermatology treatment and research center in San Diego, said that currently available breath tests for SIBO “are very interesting tools for understanding what may be happening in the gut” and that the “rifaximin data are good.”
He referred to a study reported in the Journal of the American Academy of Dermatology showing that patients with rosacea were significantly more likely to have SIBO (41.7% of 48 patients vs. 5.0% of 40 controls; P < .001), and that 64.5% of rosacea patients who completed treatment with rifaximin had remission of rosacea at a 3-year follow-up.
An earlier crossover study is also notable, he said. This study enrolled 113 consecutive patients with rosacea and 60 age- and sex-matched controls, and randomized those with SIBO (52 of the 113 with rosacea vs. 3 of the 60 controls) to rifaximin or placebo. Rosacea cleared in 20 of the 28 patients in the rifaximin group and greatly improved in 6 of the 28. Of 20 patients in the placebo group, rosacea remained unchanged in 18 and worsened in 2. When patients in the placebo group were switched to rifaximin, SIBO was eradicated in 17 of the 20, and rosacea completely resolved in 15 of those patients, Dr. Bhatia said.
In his view, it will take more time, greater awareness of the rosacea-SIBO link, and a willingness “to take chances” for more dermatologists to consider SIBO during rosacea care. “Breath tests are not something used in the [typical dermatology] clinic right now, but they may make their way in,” he said at the meeting.
In a follow-up interview, Dr. Bhatia emphasized that “it’s really a question of uptake, which always takes a while” and of willingness to “think through the disease from another angle ... especially in patients who are recalcitrant.”
Treatment
Dr. Sivamani said in the interview that a third type of SIBO – hydrogen sulfide–dominant SIBO – is now documented and worth considering when glucose and lactulose breath tests are negative in patients with rosacea who have gastrointestinal symptoms.
The use of breath tests to objectively diagnose SIBO is always best, Dr. Sivamani said, but he will consider empiric therapy in some patients. “I always tell patients [about] the benefits of testing, but if they can’t get the test covered or are unable to pay for the test, and they have symptoms consistent with SIBO, I’m okay doing a trial with therapy,” he said.
Rifaximin, one of the suggested antibiotics listed in the AGA guideline, is a nonabsorbable antibiotic that is FDA-approved for IBS with diarrhea (IBS-D); it has been shown to not negatively affect the growth of beneficial bacteria in the colon.
However, herbals are also an attractive option – alone or in combination with rifaximin or other antibiotics – speakers at the meeting said. In a multicenter retrospective chart review led by investigators at the Johns Hopkins Hospital, herbal therapies were at least as effective as rifaximin for treating SIBO, with similar safety profiles. The response rate for normalizing breath hydrogen testing in patients with SIBO was 46% for herbal therapies and 34% for rifaximin.
Dietary change is also part of treatment, with the reduction of fermentable carbohydrates – often through the Low FODMAP Diet and Specific Carbohydrate Diet – being the dominant theme in dietary intervention for SIBO, according to the AGA guideline.
“There are definitely some food choices you can shift,” said Dr. Sivamani. “I’ll work with patients on FODMAP, though it’s hard to sustain over the long-term and can induce psychological issues. You have to provide other options.”
Dr. Sivamani works with patients on using “a restrictive diet for a short amount of time, with the gradual reintroduction of foods to see [what] foods are and aren’t [causing] flares.” He also works to identify and eliminate risk factors and predisposing factors for SIBO so that recurrence will be less likely.
“SIBO is definitely an entity that is not on the fringes anymore ... it adds to inflammation in the body ... and if you have an inflamed gut, there’s a domino effect that will lead to inflammation elsewhere,” Dr. Sivamani said.
“You want to know, do your patients have SIBO? What subset do they have? Do they have risk factors you can eliminate?” he said. “And then what therapies will you use – pharmaceuticals, supplements and botanicals, or a combination? And finally, what will you do with diet?”
Dr. Bhatia disclosed he has affiliations with Abbvie, Almirall, Arcutis, Arena, Biofrontera, BMS, BI, Brickell, Dermavant, EPI Health, Ferndale, Galderma, Genentech, InCyte, ISDIN, Johnson & Johnson, LaRoche-Posay, Leo, Lilly, Novartis, Ortho, Pfizer, Proctor & Gamble, Regeneron, Sanofi, Stemline, SunPharma, and Verrica. Dr. Sivamani did not provide a disclosure statement.
REPORTING FROM IDS 2022
Breaking the itch-scratch cycle with mindfulness
Apple A. Bodemer, MD, a dermatologist at the University of Wisconsin, Madison, teaches patients how to breathe mindfully. So does Kathy Farah, MD, an integrative family physician who practices in Roberts, Wis.
, they said at the annual Integrative Dermatology Symposium.
“As with any integrative modality, if it’s safe and effective, then let’s use it,” Dr. Farah said in a presentation on the mind-body approach to pain and itch.
“A breathwork session can literally take 1 minute,” said Dr. Bodemer, associate professor of dermatology at the University of Wisconsin and director of an integrative dermatology clinic. Dr. Bodemer, who completed a fellowship in integrative medicine at the Andrew Weil Center for Integrative Medicine at the University of Arizona and sits on the American Board of Integrative Medicine, spoke on a mindfulness panel at the meeting.
Her favorite breathing practice is the “4-7-8” breath taught by Andrew Weil, MD, founder and director of the center. This involves inhaling through the nose for a count of 4, holding for 7, and exhaling through the mouth for a count of 8. “It doesn’t matter how slow or fast, it’s the tempo that matters ... On exhale, squeeze your abs in to engage your core and get air out of your lungs as much as you can,” she said, advising a cycle of three at a time.
A technique known as “square breathing” (breath in 4, hold for 4, breath out for 4, hold for 4) is another helpful technique to “reset the nervous system” said Dr. Farah, who worked for many years in a children’s hospital. With children, she said, “I often do five finger breathing.”
For five finger breathing, the children spread their fingers apart in front of them or on the ground and use the pointer finger of the opposite hand to trace each finger, inhaling while tracing upward, and exhaling while tracing down.
Dr. Farah, associate clinical director of The Center for Mind-Body Medicine in Washington, DC, said her commitment to mindfulness was influenced by a “seminal” study published over 20 years ago showing that patients with moderate to severe psoriasis who used a meditation-based, audiotape-guided stress reduction intervention during phototherapy sessions had more rapid resolution of psoriatic lesions than did patients who didn’t use the mindfulness exercise.
Among more recent findings: A cross-sectional study of 120 adult dermatology patients, published in the British Journal of Dermatology in 2016, assessed skin shame, social anxiety, anxiety, depression, dermatological quality of life, and levels of mindfulness, and found that higher levels of mindfulness were associated with lower levels of psychosocial distress.
Another cross-sectional questionnaire study looked at mindfulness and “itch catastrophizing” in 155 adult patients with atopic dermatitis. Higher levels of a specific facet of mindfulness termed “acting with awareness” were associated with lower levels of itch catastrophizing, the researchers found. “Catastrophizing is a negative way of thinking, this itching will never stop,” Dr. Farah explained. The study shows that “mindfulness can actually help reduce some of the automatic scratching and response to itch. So it’s a great adjunct to pharmaceuticals.”
Affirmations – phrases and statements that are repeated to oneself to help challenge negative thoughts – can also help reverse itch catastrophizing. Statements such as “I can breathe through this feeling of itching,” or “I can move to feel comfortable and relaxed” encourage positive change, she said.
“I teach [mindfulness skills like breathing] a lot, without any expectations. I’ll say ‘give it a try and see what you think.’ If patients feel even a micron better, then they’re invested” and can then find numerous tools online, Dr. Farah said. “Can I do this [in a busy schedule] with every patient? Absolutely not. But can I do it with every 10th patient? Maybe.”
Dr. Bodemer’s experience has shown her that “breathing with your patient builds rapport,” she said. “There’s something very powerful in that in terms of building trust. ... I’ll just do it [during a visit, to show them] and almost always, patients start breathing with me, with an invitation or without.”
For her own health, 4-7-8 breathing has “been a gateway to meditation and deeper practices,” she said. “But even without going very deep, it has a long history of being able to modulate the stress response. It’s the parasympathetic-sympathetic rebalancing I’m interested in.”
Mindful breathing and other mind-body practices also can be helpful for parents of children with eczema, she and Dr. Farah said.
Dr. Bodemer and Dr. Farah reported no financial relationships to disclose.
Apple A. Bodemer, MD, a dermatologist at the University of Wisconsin, Madison, teaches patients how to breathe mindfully. So does Kathy Farah, MD, an integrative family physician who practices in Roberts, Wis.
, they said at the annual Integrative Dermatology Symposium.
“As with any integrative modality, if it’s safe and effective, then let’s use it,” Dr. Farah said in a presentation on the mind-body approach to pain and itch.
“A breathwork session can literally take 1 minute,” said Dr. Bodemer, associate professor of dermatology at the University of Wisconsin and director of an integrative dermatology clinic. Dr. Bodemer, who completed a fellowship in integrative medicine at the Andrew Weil Center for Integrative Medicine at the University of Arizona and sits on the American Board of Integrative Medicine, spoke on a mindfulness panel at the meeting.
Her favorite breathing practice is the “4-7-8” breath taught by Andrew Weil, MD, founder and director of the center. This involves inhaling through the nose for a count of 4, holding for 7, and exhaling through the mouth for a count of 8. “It doesn’t matter how slow or fast, it’s the tempo that matters ... On exhale, squeeze your abs in to engage your core and get air out of your lungs as much as you can,” she said, advising a cycle of three at a time.
A technique known as “square breathing” (breath in 4, hold for 4, breath out for 4, hold for 4) is another helpful technique to “reset the nervous system” said Dr. Farah, who worked for many years in a children’s hospital. With children, she said, “I often do five finger breathing.”
For five finger breathing, the children spread their fingers apart in front of them or on the ground and use the pointer finger of the opposite hand to trace each finger, inhaling while tracing upward, and exhaling while tracing down.
Dr. Farah, associate clinical director of The Center for Mind-Body Medicine in Washington, DC, said her commitment to mindfulness was influenced by a “seminal” study published over 20 years ago showing that patients with moderate to severe psoriasis who used a meditation-based, audiotape-guided stress reduction intervention during phototherapy sessions had more rapid resolution of psoriatic lesions than did patients who didn’t use the mindfulness exercise.
Among more recent findings: A cross-sectional study of 120 adult dermatology patients, published in the British Journal of Dermatology in 2016, assessed skin shame, social anxiety, anxiety, depression, dermatological quality of life, and levels of mindfulness, and found that higher levels of mindfulness were associated with lower levels of psychosocial distress.
Another cross-sectional questionnaire study looked at mindfulness and “itch catastrophizing” in 155 adult patients with atopic dermatitis. Higher levels of a specific facet of mindfulness termed “acting with awareness” were associated with lower levels of itch catastrophizing, the researchers found. “Catastrophizing is a negative way of thinking, this itching will never stop,” Dr. Farah explained. The study shows that “mindfulness can actually help reduce some of the automatic scratching and response to itch. So it’s a great adjunct to pharmaceuticals.”
Affirmations – phrases and statements that are repeated to oneself to help challenge negative thoughts – can also help reverse itch catastrophizing. Statements such as “I can breathe through this feeling of itching,” or “I can move to feel comfortable and relaxed” encourage positive change, she said.
“I teach [mindfulness skills like breathing] a lot, without any expectations. I’ll say ‘give it a try and see what you think.’ If patients feel even a micron better, then they’re invested” and can then find numerous tools online, Dr. Farah said. “Can I do this [in a busy schedule] with every patient? Absolutely not. But can I do it with every 10th patient? Maybe.”
Dr. Bodemer’s experience has shown her that “breathing with your patient builds rapport,” she said. “There’s something very powerful in that in terms of building trust. ... I’ll just do it [during a visit, to show them] and almost always, patients start breathing with me, with an invitation or without.”
For her own health, 4-7-8 breathing has “been a gateway to meditation and deeper practices,” she said. “But even without going very deep, it has a long history of being able to modulate the stress response. It’s the parasympathetic-sympathetic rebalancing I’m interested in.”
Mindful breathing and other mind-body practices also can be helpful for parents of children with eczema, she and Dr. Farah said.
Dr. Bodemer and Dr. Farah reported no financial relationships to disclose.
Apple A. Bodemer, MD, a dermatologist at the University of Wisconsin, Madison, teaches patients how to breathe mindfully. So does Kathy Farah, MD, an integrative family physician who practices in Roberts, Wis.
, they said at the annual Integrative Dermatology Symposium.
“As with any integrative modality, if it’s safe and effective, then let’s use it,” Dr. Farah said in a presentation on the mind-body approach to pain and itch.
“A breathwork session can literally take 1 minute,” said Dr. Bodemer, associate professor of dermatology at the University of Wisconsin and director of an integrative dermatology clinic. Dr. Bodemer, who completed a fellowship in integrative medicine at the Andrew Weil Center for Integrative Medicine at the University of Arizona and sits on the American Board of Integrative Medicine, spoke on a mindfulness panel at the meeting.
Her favorite breathing practice is the “4-7-8” breath taught by Andrew Weil, MD, founder and director of the center. This involves inhaling through the nose for a count of 4, holding for 7, and exhaling through the mouth for a count of 8. “It doesn’t matter how slow or fast, it’s the tempo that matters ... On exhale, squeeze your abs in to engage your core and get air out of your lungs as much as you can,” she said, advising a cycle of three at a time.
A technique known as “square breathing” (breath in 4, hold for 4, breath out for 4, hold for 4) is another helpful technique to “reset the nervous system” said Dr. Farah, who worked for many years in a children’s hospital. With children, she said, “I often do five finger breathing.”
For five finger breathing, the children spread their fingers apart in front of them or on the ground and use the pointer finger of the opposite hand to trace each finger, inhaling while tracing upward, and exhaling while tracing down.
Dr. Farah, associate clinical director of The Center for Mind-Body Medicine in Washington, DC, said her commitment to mindfulness was influenced by a “seminal” study published over 20 years ago showing that patients with moderate to severe psoriasis who used a meditation-based, audiotape-guided stress reduction intervention during phototherapy sessions had more rapid resolution of psoriatic lesions than did patients who didn’t use the mindfulness exercise.
Among more recent findings: A cross-sectional study of 120 adult dermatology patients, published in the British Journal of Dermatology in 2016, assessed skin shame, social anxiety, anxiety, depression, dermatological quality of life, and levels of mindfulness, and found that higher levels of mindfulness were associated with lower levels of psychosocial distress.
Another cross-sectional questionnaire study looked at mindfulness and “itch catastrophizing” in 155 adult patients with atopic dermatitis. Higher levels of a specific facet of mindfulness termed “acting with awareness” were associated with lower levels of itch catastrophizing, the researchers found. “Catastrophizing is a negative way of thinking, this itching will never stop,” Dr. Farah explained. The study shows that “mindfulness can actually help reduce some of the automatic scratching and response to itch. So it’s a great adjunct to pharmaceuticals.”
Affirmations – phrases and statements that are repeated to oneself to help challenge negative thoughts – can also help reverse itch catastrophizing. Statements such as “I can breathe through this feeling of itching,” or “I can move to feel comfortable and relaxed” encourage positive change, she said.
“I teach [mindfulness skills like breathing] a lot, without any expectations. I’ll say ‘give it a try and see what you think.’ If patients feel even a micron better, then they’re invested” and can then find numerous tools online, Dr. Farah said. “Can I do this [in a busy schedule] with every patient? Absolutely not. But can I do it with every 10th patient? Maybe.”
Dr. Bodemer’s experience has shown her that “breathing with your patient builds rapport,” she said. “There’s something very powerful in that in terms of building trust. ... I’ll just do it [during a visit, to show them] and almost always, patients start breathing with me, with an invitation or without.”
For her own health, 4-7-8 breathing has “been a gateway to meditation and deeper practices,” she said. “But even without going very deep, it has a long history of being able to modulate the stress response. It’s the parasympathetic-sympathetic rebalancing I’m interested in.”
Mindful breathing and other mind-body practices also can be helpful for parents of children with eczema, she and Dr. Farah said.
Dr. Bodemer and Dr. Farah reported no financial relationships to disclose.
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An integrative approach to atopic dermatitis features a long list of options
to probiotics and acupressure – that he encourages patients to try as they use the big guns, or as they attempt to wean off of them or avoid their use altogether.
During a presentation at the annual Integrative Dermatology Symposium, Dr. Lio said that he uses “5 pillars” to guide his integrative treatment plans: The skin barrier, the psyche, the microbiome, inflammation, and itch. “I try to flag approaches that predominantly address the categories that I think need the most help,” he said. “And I tell patients [which pillar or pillars] each treatment is addressing.”
Most commonly, the greatest challenge with AD – and the “single biggest weakness of conventional Western medicine” – lies not with getting patients clear in the first place, but in keeping them clear safely, he said. “I don’t think that using immunosuppressive [medications] is okay for the long-term unless there is no other choice,” said Dr. Lio, who cofounded the Chicago Integrative Eczema Center about 6 years ago and is clinical assistant professor of dermatology and pediatrics at Northwestern University, Chicago. Oftentimes, he said, complementary approaches, including dietary changes, can also serve as supportive adjunctive therapy to biologics and JAK inhibitors.
He has three main criteria, or “filters,” for evaluating these treatments before recommending them to patients: At least some clinical evidence for efficacy (preferably randomized trials but not necessarily), safety, and practicality. The “only way we’re going to move things forward [for AD and other conditions] is to try out less tested treatments ... to open up to them,” Dr. Lio said in an interview after the meeting. And in doing so, he said, dermatologists “can connect with a lot of patients whom naysayers can’t connect with.”
An integrative menu
Dr. Lio individualizes plans, suggesting treatments after “listening to patients’ stories” and considering their age, history, symptoms and skin presentation, and other factors. He said he “goes little by little,” telling a patient, for instance, “I’d love for us to try adding a little hemp oil to your diet.”
If patients aren’t pleased with or are tired of treatments, he said in the interview, “we move on and try something else.”
At the meeting, he described some of the treatments on his menu and the supporting evidence for those treatments:
Oral hempseed oil. A randomized crossover study of 20 adult patients with AD found that daily consumption of 2 tablespoons of hempseed oil decreased skin dryness, itchiness, and use of topical medications compared with consumption of olive oil. “It was statistically significant and seemed clinically meaningful,” likely resulting from the high concentration of polyunsaturated fatty acids in the oil, Dr. Lio said.
Topical vitamin B12. In a phase 3 randomized controlled trial of topical B12 applied twice a day for 8 weeks, patients experienced significant improvements in the extent and severity of AD compared with placebo. Another study in children with AD aged 6 months to 18 years found significant improvement in as early as 2 weeks of use. “It really does help, and is very gentle in babies,” Dr. Lio said.
Black tea compresses. “It’s absolutely my favorite kind of compress,” he said. “It was studied on the face and eyelids but I use it all over the body for adults and kids.” A German study of 22 patients with AD or contact facial dermatitis showed significant improvements in facial dermatitis within the first 3 days of treatment with application of black tea dressings plus an emollient cream, with significant reductions in four disease activity scores (the Facial Eczema Area and Severity Index, visual analog scale for pruritus, Investigator’s Global Assessment score, and Patient’s Self-Assessment Score) that continued through day 6.
Oolong tea. In a 2001 study, after 1 month of drinking oolong tea after each meal, 64% of patients with recalcitrant AD who continued with their regular treatment showed marked to moderate improvements in AD, with a beneficial effect first noticed after 1-2 weeks. At 6 months, 54% still had a good response to treatment. “It’s super cheap and accessible,” Dr. Lio said.
Coconut oil. One of the greatest benefits of coconut oil is on the microbiome and the dysbiosis that can result from a disrupted, or “leaky,” skin barrier – especially overgrowth of Staphylococcus aureus, which “drives AD,” Dr. Lio said. In a study of adults with AD from the Philippines, topically applied coconut oil decreased S. aureus colonization by 95% when applied twice daily for 4 weeks, compared with a 50% decrease in an olive oil control group. Other research has shown coconut oil to be superior to mineral oil as a moisturizer, he said at the meeting.
Acupressure. After a pilot study conducted by Dr. Lio and colleagues showed greater decreases in itch (per the visual analogue scale) in adults with AD who applied an acupressure bead at the LI11 point (near the elbow) for 3 minutes three times a week for 4 weeks, than among those who did not use the acupressure tool, Dr. Lio began trying it with some of his patients. “Now I use it broadly,” he added in the interview. “Kids over 10 can figure out how to use it and teenagers love it [to relief itch]. Some don’t use the beads anymore, they just use their fingertips.”
Advice on diet, vitamin D, and probiotics
AD severity is “powerfully” correlated with IgE food allergy, but Dr. Lio said at the meeting that he currently takes a cautious approach toward strict elimination diets.
There is a growing school of thought among allergists, he said, that positive IgE tests without evidence of acute reactions may not indicate true allergy, but rather sensitivity – and may not warrant food eliminations. And as has been shown with peanuts, there can be a serious downside to elimination, as food avoidance can lead to serious allergy later on, he said.
“More and more people are thinking that if you can tolerate [a food], continue it,” he added in the interview. In the absence of clear reactions, the only way to really know if a food is making eczema worse is to do a double-blind, placebo-controlled food challenge test, he noted.
Patients often come to see him believing that food is the “root cause” of their eczema and feeling frustrated, even anxious, about strict dietary restrictions they’ve implemented. But for many of these patients, the right question “would be to ask, why is my eczema causing my food allergy?” he said at the meeting, referring to the epithelial barrier hypothesis, which posits that skin barrier dysfunction can lead to asthma, allergic rhinitis, and food allergy.
Dr. Lio often recommends the Autoimmune Protocol (AIP) diet, a “close cousin” of the paleo diet for patients with AD, as general guidance to be followed “holistically” and often without the strict eliminations it prescribes. Minimizing processed foods and dairy and grains, which “can be inflammatory in some people,” and focusing on whole, nutrient-rich foods – all in keeping with the AIP principles – should have positive effects on the microbiome, overall health, and likely AD as well, he said.
Across the board, Dr. Lio recommends vitamin D (at nationally recommended dosages) and probiotics. Vitamin D has been shown to significantly help a small percentage of patients with eczema, he said, so he advises patients that it’s worth a trial. “I tell patients that I don’t know how to pick that small group out, so let’s try for a few months and see,” he said. “Inevitably, a percentage of patients come back and say it makes a huge difference.”
Dr. Lio’s understanding and use of probiotics has been “dynamic” over the years. “The “best, most reliable evidence” that probiotics can improve AD symptoms comes with the use of multiple probiotic strains together, he said. Based on limited but growing literature, he ensures that recommended formulations for babies include Lactobacillus rhamnosus, and that formulations for adults include Lactobacillus salivarius.
Dr. Lio works closely with dietitians, hypnotherapists, and psychologists – and will occasionally refer interested patients with AD to a Chinese medicine practitioner who personalizes the use of herbal formulations.
He reported no relevant disclosures.
to probiotics and acupressure – that he encourages patients to try as they use the big guns, or as they attempt to wean off of them or avoid their use altogether.
During a presentation at the annual Integrative Dermatology Symposium, Dr. Lio said that he uses “5 pillars” to guide his integrative treatment plans: The skin barrier, the psyche, the microbiome, inflammation, and itch. “I try to flag approaches that predominantly address the categories that I think need the most help,” he said. “And I tell patients [which pillar or pillars] each treatment is addressing.”
Most commonly, the greatest challenge with AD – and the “single biggest weakness of conventional Western medicine” – lies not with getting patients clear in the first place, but in keeping them clear safely, he said. “I don’t think that using immunosuppressive [medications] is okay for the long-term unless there is no other choice,” said Dr. Lio, who cofounded the Chicago Integrative Eczema Center about 6 years ago and is clinical assistant professor of dermatology and pediatrics at Northwestern University, Chicago. Oftentimes, he said, complementary approaches, including dietary changes, can also serve as supportive adjunctive therapy to biologics and JAK inhibitors.
He has three main criteria, or “filters,” for evaluating these treatments before recommending them to patients: At least some clinical evidence for efficacy (preferably randomized trials but not necessarily), safety, and practicality. The “only way we’re going to move things forward [for AD and other conditions] is to try out less tested treatments ... to open up to them,” Dr. Lio said in an interview after the meeting. And in doing so, he said, dermatologists “can connect with a lot of patients whom naysayers can’t connect with.”
An integrative menu
Dr. Lio individualizes plans, suggesting treatments after “listening to patients’ stories” and considering their age, history, symptoms and skin presentation, and other factors. He said he “goes little by little,” telling a patient, for instance, “I’d love for us to try adding a little hemp oil to your diet.”
If patients aren’t pleased with or are tired of treatments, he said in the interview, “we move on and try something else.”
At the meeting, he described some of the treatments on his menu and the supporting evidence for those treatments:
Oral hempseed oil. A randomized crossover study of 20 adult patients with AD found that daily consumption of 2 tablespoons of hempseed oil decreased skin dryness, itchiness, and use of topical medications compared with consumption of olive oil. “It was statistically significant and seemed clinically meaningful,” likely resulting from the high concentration of polyunsaturated fatty acids in the oil, Dr. Lio said.
Topical vitamin B12. In a phase 3 randomized controlled trial of topical B12 applied twice a day for 8 weeks, patients experienced significant improvements in the extent and severity of AD compared with placebo. Another study in children with AD aged 6 months to 18 years found significant improvement in as early as 2 weeks of use. “It really does help, and is very gentle in babies,” Dr. Lio said.
Black tea compresses. “It’s absolutely my favorite kind of compress,” he said. “It was studied on the face and eyelids but I use it all over the body for adults and kids.” A German study of 22 patients with AD or contact facial dermatitis showed significant improvements in facial dermatitis within the first 3 days of treatment with application of black tea dressings plus an emollient cream, with significant reductions in four disease activity scores (the Facial Eczema Area and Severity Index, visual analog scale for pruritus, Investigator’s Global Assessment score, and Patient’s Self-Assessment Score) that continued through day 6.
Oolong tea. In a 2001 study, after 1 month of drinking oolong tea after each meal, 64% of patients with recalcitrant AD who continued with their regular treatment showed marked to moderate improvements in AD, with a beneficial effect first noticed after 1-2 weeks. At 6 months, 54% still had a good response to treatment. “It’s super cheap and accessible,” Dr. Lio said.
Coconut oil. One of the greatest benefits of coconut oil is on the microbiome and the dysbiosis that can result from a disrupted, or “leaky,” skin barrier – especially overgrowth of Staphylococcus aureus, which “drives AD,” Dr. Lio said. In a study of adults with AD from the Philippines, topically applied coconut oil decreased S. aureus colonization by 95% when applied twice daily for 4 weeks, compared with a 50% decrease in an olive oil control group. Other research has shown coconut oil to be superior to mineral oil as a moisturizer, he said at the meeting.
Acupressure. After a pilot study conducted by Dr. Lio and colleagues showed greater decreases in itch (per the visual analogue scale) in adults with AD who applied an acupressure bead at the LI11 point (near the elbow) for 3 minutes three times a week for 4 weeks, than among those who did not use the acupressure tool, Dr. Lio began trying it with some of his patients. “Now I use it broadly,” he added in the interview. “Kids over 10 can figure out how to use it and teenagers love it [to relief itch]. Some don’t use the beads anymore, they just use their fingertips.”
Advice on diet, vitamin D, and probiotics
AD severity is “powerfully” correlated with IgE food allergy, but Dr. Lio said at the meeting that he currently takes a cautious approach toward strict elimination diets.
There is a growing school of thought among allergists, he said, that positive IgE tests without evidence of acute reactions may not indicate true allergy, but rather sensitivity – and may not warrant food eliminations. And as has been shown with peanuts, there can be a serious downside to elimination, as food avoidance can lead to serious allergy later on, he said.
“More and more people are thinking that if you can tolerate [a food], continue it,” he added in the interview. In the absence of clear reactions, the only way to really know if a food is making eczema worse is to do a double-blind, placebo-controlled food challenge test, he noted.
Patients often come to see him believing that food is the “root cause” of their eczema and feeling frustrated, even anxious, about strict dietary restrictions they’ve implemented. But for many of these patients, the right question “would be to ask, why is my eczema causing my food allergy?” he said at the meeting, referring to the epithelial barrier hypothesis, which posits that skin barrier dysfunction can lead to asthma, allergic rhinitis, and food allergy.
Dr. Lio often recommends the Autoimmune Protocol (AIP) diet, a “close cousin” of the paleo diet for patients with AD, as general guidance to be followed “holistically” and often without the strict eliminations it prescribes. Minimizing processed foods and dairy and grains, which “can be inflammatory in some people,” and focusing on whole, nutrient-rich foods – all in keeping with the AIP principles – should have positive effects on the microbiome, overall health, and likely AD as well, he said.
Across the board, Dr. Lio recommends vitamin D (at nationally recommended dosages) and probiotics. Vitamin D has been shown to significantly help a small percentage of patients with eczema, he said, so he advises patients that it’s worth a trial. “I tell patients that I don’t know how to pick that small group out, so let’s try for a few months and see,” he said. “Inevitably, a percentage of patients come back and say it makes a huge difference.”
Dr. Lio’s understanding and use of probiotics has been “dynamic” over the years. “The “best, most reliable evidence” that probiotics can improve AD symptoms comes with the use of multiple probiotic strains together, he said. Based on limited but growing literature, he ensures that recommended formulations for babies include Lactobacillus rhamnosus, and that formulations for adults include Lactobacillus salivarius.
Dr. Lio works closely with dietitians, hypnotherapists, and psychologists – and will occasionally refer interested patients with AD to a Chinese medicine practitioner who personalizes the use of herbal formulations.
He reported no relevant disclosures.
to probiotics and acupressure – that he encourages patients to try as they use the big guns, or as they attempt to wean off of them or avoid their use altogether.
During a presentation at the annual Integrative Dermatology Symposium, Dr. Lio said that he uses “5 pillars” to guide his integrative treatment plans: The skin barrier, the psyche, the microbiome, inflammation, and itch. “I try to flag approaches that predominantly address the categories that I think need the most help,” he said. “And I tell patients [which pillar or pillars] each treatment is addressing.”
Most commonly, the greatest challenge with AD – and the “single biggest weakness of conventional Western medicine” – lies not with getting patients clear in the first place, but in keeping them clear safely, he said. “I don’t think that using immunosuppressive [medications] is okay for the long-term unless there is no other choice,” said Dr. Lio, who cofounded the Chicago Integrative Eczema Center about 6 years ago and is clinical assistant professor of dermatology and pediatrics at Northwestern University, Chicago. Oftentimes, he said, complementary approaches, including dietary changes, can also serve as supportive adjunctive therapy to biologics and JAK inhibitors.
He has three main criteria, or “filters,” for evaluating these treatments before recommending them to patients: At least some clinical evidence for efficacy (preferably randomized trials but not necessarily), safety, and practicality. The “only way we’re going to move things forward [for AD and other conditions] is to try out less tested treatments ... to open up to them,” Dr. Lio said in an interview after the meeting. And in doing so, he said, dermatologists “can connect with a lot of patients whom naysayers can’t connect with.”
An integrative menu
Dr. Lio individualizes plans, suggesting treatments after “listening to patients’ stories” and considering their age, history, symptoms and skin presentation, and other factors. He said he “goes little by little,” telling a patient, for instance, “I’d love for us to try adding a little hemp oil to your diet.”
If patients aren’t pleased with or are tired of treatments, he said in the interview, “we move on and try something else.”
At the meeting, he described some of the treatments on his menu and the supporting evidence for those treatments:
Oral hempseed oil. A randomized crossover study of 20 adult patients with AD found that daily consumption of 2 tablespoons of hempseed oil decreased skin dryness, itchiness, and use of topical medications compared with consumption of olive oil. “It was statistically significant and seemed clinically meaningful,” likely resulting from the high concentration of polyunsaturated fatty acids in the oil, Dr. Lio said.
Topical vitamin B12. In a phase 3 randomized controlled trial of topical B12 applied twice a day for 8 weeks, patients experienced significant improvements in the extent and severity of AD compared with placebo. Another study in children with AD aged 6 months to 18 years found significant improvement in as early as 2 weeks of use. “It really does help, and is very gentle in babies,” Dr. Lio said.
Black tea compresses. “It’s absolutely my favorite kind of compress,” he said. “It was studied on the face and eyelids but I use it all over the body for adults and kids.” A German study of 22 patients with AD or contact facial dermatitis showed significant improvements in facial dermatitis within the first 3 days of treatment with application of black tea dressings plus an emollient cream, with significant reductions in four disease activity scores (the Facial Eczema Area and Severity Index, visual analog scale for pruritus, Investigator’s Global Assessment score, and Patient’s Self-Assessment Score) that continued through day 6.
Oolong tea. In a 2001 study, after 1 month of drinking oolong tea after each meal, 64% of patients with recalcitrant AD who continued with their regular treatment showed marked to moderate improvements in AD, with a beneficial effect first noticed after 1-2 weeks. At 6 months, 54% still had a good response to treatment. “It’s super cheap and accessible,” Dr. Lio said.
Coconut oil. One of the greatest benefits of coconut oil is on the microbiome and the dysbiosis that can result from a disrupted, or “leaky,” skin barrier – especially overgrowth of Staphylococcus aureus, which “drives AD,” Dr. Lio said. In a study of adults with AD from the Philippines, topically applied coconut oil decreased S. aureus colonization by 95% when applied twice daily for 4 weeks, compared with a 50% decrease in an olive oil control group. Other research has shown coconut oil to be superior to mineral oil as a moisturizer, he said at the meeting.
Acupressure. After a pilot study conducted by Dr. Lio and colleagues showed greater decreases in itch (per the visual analogue scale) in adults with AD who applied an acupressure bead at the LI11 point (near the elbow) for 3 minutes three times a week for 4 weeks, than among those who did not use the acupressure tool, Dr. Lio began trying it with some of his patients. “Now I use it broadly,” he added in the interview. “Kids over 10 can figure out how to use it and teenagers love it [to relief itch]. Some don’t use the beads anymore, they just use their fingertips.”
Advice on diet, vitamin D, and probiotics
AD severity is “powerfully” correlated with IgE food allergy, but Dr. Lio said at the meeting that he currently takes a cautious approach toward strict elimination diets.
There is a growing school of thought among allergists, he said, that positive IgE tests without evidence of acute reactions may not indicate true allergy, but rather sensitivity – and may not warrant food eliminations. And as has been shown with peanuts, there can be a serious downside to elimination, as food avoidance can lead to serious allergy later on, he said.
“More and more people are thinking that if you can tolerate [a food], continue it,” he added in the interview. In the absence of clear reactions, the only way to really know if a food is making eczema worse is to do a double-blind, placebo-controlled food challenge test, he noted.
Patients often come to see him believing that food is the “root cause” of their eczema and feeling frustrated, even anxious, about strict dietary restrictions they’ve implemented. But for many of these patients, the right question “would be to ask, why is my eczema causing my food allergy?” he said at the meeting, referring to the epithelial barrier hypothesis, which posits that skin barrier dysfunction can lead to asthma, allergic rhinitis, and food allergy.
Dr. Lio often recommends the Autoimmune Protocol (AIP) diet, a “close cousin” of the paleo diet for patients with AD, as general guidance to be followed “holistically” and often without the strict eliminations it prescribes. Minimizing processed foods and dairy and grains, which “can be inflammatory in some people,” and focusing on whole, nutrient-rich foods – all in keeping with the AIP principles – should have positive effects on the microbiome, overall health, and likely AD as well, he said.
Across the board, Dr. Lio recommends vitamin D (at nationally recommended dosages) and probiotics. Vitamin D has been shown to significantly help a small percentage of patients with eczema, he said, so he advises patients that it’s worth a trial. “I tell patients that I don’t know how to pick that small group out, so let’s try for a few months and see,” he said. “Inevitably, a percentage of patients come back and say it makes a huge difference.”
Dr. Lio’s understanding and use of probiotics has been “dynamic” over the years. “The “best, most reliable evidence” that probiotics can improve AD symptoms comes with the use of multiple probiotic strains together, he said. Based on limited but growing literature, he ensures that recommended formulations for babies include Lactobacillus rhamnosus, and that formulations for adults include Lactobacillus salivarius.
Dr. Lio works closely with dietitians, hypnotherapists, and psychologists – and will occasionally refer interested patients with AD to a Chinese medicine practitioner who personalizes the use of herbal formulations.
He reported no relevant disclosures.
FROM IDS 2022