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Ketamine may help OCD, but much work remains
SAN FRANCISCO – The recent Food and Drug Administration approval of intranasal esketamine for treatment-resistant depression has prompted interest in using this class of drugs in other conditions, including obsessive-compulsive disorder.
“OCD is severe, and one in seven people with OCD will attempt suicide in their lifetime,” said Carolyn Rodriguez, MD, PhD, associate professor of psychiatry and behavioral sciences at Stanford (Calif.) University.
Dr. Rodriguez presented some of her research on the mechanism of action of ketamine and its potential benefits for OCD during a session at the annual meeting of the American Psychiatric Association.
OCD patients experience a lengthy delay between treatment initiation and clinical benefit, sometimes 2 to 3 months, and most don’t achieve complete symptom remission, according to Dr. Rodriguez. “To help patients, I wanted to look at therapies that could be rapid acting, and given the converging lines of evidence that glutamate may play a role as an excitatory chemical messenger that helps neurons communicate, I looked at ketamine, which blocks the glutamate receptor,” she said.
A small study published in 2013 by her group was the first randomized, clinical trial of ketamine in OCD. It included 15 adults who experienced near-constant obsessions. A single dose given over 40 minutes led to a dramatic decrease in intrusive thoughts. One week after the infusion, four of eight patients who received ketamine met the criteria for a treatment response (35% or more reduction in Yale-Brown Obsessive Compulsive Scale scores), compared with none of the seven patients in the placebo group.
, with the intent of looking at the drug’s effects on the circuits involved in OCD. “We need a large study to see if this is something that can be replicated, and we don’t know how long the effects persist. We’re just at the tip of the iceberg with OCD. In depression, there are these large studies that have been replicated, and in OCD, at least for randomized studies, it’s just this one study (from 2013) and the one that we have coming,” Dr. Rodriguez said.
Given the severity of OCD, ketamine and esketamine have generated some excitement, especially as a bridge to other therapies, such as cognitive-behavioral therapy or selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors.
The FDA’s approval of esketamine in March further boosted interest, but Dr. Rodriguez cautions that more research needs to be done. There is also at least one potential twist to use of an inhaled version of the drug. Contamination OCD patients may be unwilling to use a spray. In fact, Dr. Rodriguez’s team had to cancel a study looking at an inhaled form of racemic ketamine in OCD because they couldn’t recruit enough subjects. “There are variants [in OCD], and that’s why it’s important to study all populations and not assume that depression studies will cover the whole spectrum of our patients,” she said.
Dr. Rodriguez has consulted for Epiodyne, Allergan, BlackThorn, and Rugen.
SAN FRANCISCO – The recent Food and Drug Administration approval of intranasal esketamine for treatment-resistant depression has prompted interest in using this class of drugs in other conditions, including obsessive-compulsive disorder.
“OCD is severe, and one in seven people with OCD will attempt suicide in their lifetime,” said Carolyn Rodriguez, MD, PhD, associate professor of psychiatry and behavioral sciences at Stanford (Calif.) University.
Dr. Rodriguez presented some of her research on the mechanism of action of ketamine and its potential benefits for OCD during a session at the annual meeting of the American Psychiatric Association.
OCD patients experience a lengthy delay between treatment initiation and clinical benefit, sometimes 2 to 3 months, and most don’t achieve complete symptom remission, according to Dr. Rodriguez. “To help patients, I wanted to look at therapies that could be rapid acting, and given the converging lines of evidence that glutamate may play a role as an excitatory chemical messenger that helps neurons communicate, I looked at ketamine, which blocks the glutamate receptor,” she said.
A small study published in 2013 by her group was the first randomized, clinical trial of ketamine in OCD. It included 15 adults who experienced near-constant obsessions. A single dose given over 40 minutes led to a dramatic decrease in intrusive thoughts. One week after the infusion, four of eight patients who received ketamine met the criteria for a treatment response (35% or more reduction in Yale-Brown Obsessive Compulsive Scale scores), compared with none of the seven patients in the placebo group.
, with the intent of looking at the drug’s effects on the circuits involved in OCD. “We need a large study to see if this is something that can be replicated, and we don’t know how long the effects persist. We’re just at the tip of the iceberg with OCD. In depression, there are these large studies that have been replicated, and in OCD, at least for randomized studies, it’s just this one study (from 2013) and the one that we have coming,” Dr. Rodriguez said.
Given the severity of OCD, ketamine and esketamine have generated some excitement, especially as a bridge to other therapies, such as cognitive-behavioral therapy or selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors.
The FDA’s approval of esketamine in March further boosted interest, but Dr. Rodriguez cautions that more research needs to be done. There is also at least one potential twist to use of an inhaled version of the drug. Contamination OCD patients may be unwilling to use a spray. In fact, Dr. Rodriguez’s team had to cancel a study looking at an inhaled form of racemic ketamine in OCD because they couldn’t recruit enough subjects. “There are variants [in OCD], and that’s why it’s important to study all populations and not assume that depression studies will cover the whole spectrum of our patients,” she said.
Dr. Rodriguez has consulted for Epiodyne, Allergan, BlackThorn, and Rugen.
SAN FRANCISCO – The recent Food and Drug Administration approval of intranasal esketamine for treatment-resistant depression has prompted interest in using this class of drugs in other conditions, including obsessive-compulsive disorder.
“OCD is severe, and one in seven people with OCD will attempt suicide in their lifetime,” said Carolyn Rodriguez, MD, PhD, associate professor of psychiatry and behavioral sciences at Stanford (Calif.) University.
Dr. Rodriguez presented some of her research on the mechanism of action of ketamine and its potential benefits for OCD during a session at the annual meeting of the American Psychiatric Association.
OCD patients experience a lengthy delay between treatment initiation and clinical benefit, sometimes 2 to 3 months, and most don’t achieve complete symptom remission, according to Dr. Rodriguez. “To help patients, I wanted to look at therapies that could be rapid acting, and given the converging lines of evidence that glutamate may play a role as an excitatory chemical messenger that helps neurons communicate, I looked at ketamine, which blocks the glutamate receptor,” she said.
A small study published in 2013 by her group was the first randomized, clinical trial of ketamine in OCD. It included 15 adults who experienced near-constant obsessions. A single dose given over 40 minutes led to a dramatic decrease in intrusive thoughts. One week after the infusion, four of eight patients who received ketamine met the criteria for a treatment response (35% or more reduction in Yale-Brown Obsessive Compulsive Scale scores), compared with none of the seven patients in the placebo group.
, with the intent of looking at the drug’s effects on the circuits involved in OCD. “We need a large study to see if this is something that can be replicated, and we don’t know how long the effects persist. We’re just at the tip of the iceberg with OCD. In depression, there are these large studies that have been replicated, and in OCD, at least for randomized studies, it’s just this one study (from 2013) and the one that we have coming,” Dr. Rodriguez said.
Given the severity of OCD, ketamine and esketamine have generated some excitement, especially as a bridge to other therapies, such as cognitive-behavioral therapy or selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors.
The FDA’s approval of esketamine in March further boosted interest, but Dr. Rodriguez cautions that more research needs to be done. There is also at least one potential twist to use of an inhaled version of the drug. Contamination OCD patients may be unwilling to use a spray. In fact, Dr. Rodriguez’s team had to cancel a study looking at an inhaled form of racemic ketamine in OCD because they couldn’t recruit enough subjects. “There are variants [in OCD], and that’s why it’s important to study all populations and not assume that depression studies will cover the whole spectrum of our patients,” she said.
Dr. Rodriguez has consulted for Epiodyne, Allergan, BlackThorn, and Rugen.
REPORTING FROM APA 2019
Ketamine may rely on opioid receptors for antidepressive effect
SAN FRANCISCO – Ketamine and the more recently Food and Drug Administration–approved esketamine have generated a great deal of excitement in psychiatry over their potential to treat depression and other psychiatric disorders. However, the mechanism of action is not completely understood, and efforts are underway to better understand the drugs.
Much has been made of ketamine’s interaction with the N-methyl-D-aspartate (NMDA) receptors. One belief is that chronic stress leads to the accumulation of extracellular glutamate, which leads to a range of negative consequences. Ketamine blocks excess glutamate in the synapse and may thus reverse these downstream effects.
But it may not be so clear cut, according to Nolan Williams, MD. During a session on ketamine’s mechanism of action at the annual meeting of the American Psychiatric Association, Dr. Williams, assistant professor of psychiatry and behavioral sciences at Stanford (Calif.) University, noted that ketamine is “one of the most dirty drugs we know. It affects most neurotransmitter systems and has all sorts of downstream effects.”
Pain research has already shown that ketamine’s mechanisms can be complex. It affects the opioid system, both directly and indirectly, and an opioid receptor antagonist blocks ketamine’s pain-relieving effect.
Since opioids are also known to have antidepressant effects, it’s natural to wonder if ketamine’s mechanism also involves the opioid system. The opioid antagonist naltrexone provides a tool to study the problem. Dr. Williams reasoned that if ketamine relies in whole or in part on the opioid system for its antidepressive effect, then administering naltrexone ahead of ketamine should blunt or even eliminate its efficacy.
To examine the question, the team conducted a study of 11 patients with treatment-resistant depression. Right away, it was clear that the participants had some bias toward the treatment. “They all said the same thing to me: ‘My psychiatrist said that your study doesn’t make any sense because this is an NMDA antagonist. I’m going to get two free ketamine infusions.’ So they were preloaded with this idea that they were going to get very potent antidepressant effects (even with naltrexone),” said Dr. Williams.
The study had a crossover design and included two ketamine infusions. Participants were randomized to get either naltrexone or placebo 1 hour before the first ketamine infusion, and then were allowed to relapse back to within 20% of their baseline depression score before receiving the second ketamine infusion, when they received naltrexone or placebo, whichever hadn’t been given in the first treatment.
Of 12 who completed the study, seven responded to placebo plus ketamine treatment, and six remitted. But when they crossed over to the naltrexone arm, the result was very different: In three of four measures, there was no significant difference between the pretreatment and posttreatment results. “The same people who were almost exclusively in remission during the ketamine plus placebo condition got nothing out of ketamine plus naltrexone,” said Dr. Williams. Naltrexone had a similar negating effect on the positive response to ketamine on the suicide item of the 17-item Hamilton Rating Scale for Depression.
The researchers also looked at whether ketamine’s dissociative effect could be responsible for its activity through altering the participant’s mental state, but determined that it may be necessary for the antidepressant effect – but it is not sufficient.
We’re not saying it’s sufficient, but it appears to be quite necessary,” Dr. Williams said. He added that the results don’t mean that ketamine’s effect on NMDA is unimportant. In fact, “it’s probable that the ketamine is driving the mood in a direction, and these glutamine-related changes are probably what’s maintaining the mood in that direction,” he added.
As to the clinical impacts of his findings, Dr. Williams emphasized the need to understand the mechanisms behind the ketamine class. He pointed out that in pivotal trials of esketamine, there were six deaths, three by suicide, all of them in the esketamine group. Surprisingly, two of those who took their own lives had scored a 0 on the Columbia-Suicide Severity Scale, both at baseline and at the visit immediately preceding their deaths. The score wasn’t available for the third. “These weren’t people who were particularly dangerously suicidal. So understanding the mechanism is really important to understanding the safety of this drug, who we should give it to, and what sorts of things we should watch out for,” Dr. Williams said.
The study was funded by the National Institutes of Health, Spectrum, the Brain and Behavior Research Foundation, and Stanford Bio-X. Dr. Williams had no disclosures.
SAN FRANCISCO – Ketamine and the more recently Food and Drug Administration–approved esketamine have generated a great deal of excitement in psychiatry over their potential to treat depression and other psychiatric disorders. However, the mechanism of action is not completely understood, and efforts are underway to better understand the drugs.
Much has been made of ketamine’s interaction with the N-methyl-D-aspartate (NMDA) receptors. One belief is that chronic stress leads to the accumulation of extracellular glutamate, which leads to a range of negative consequences. Ketamine blocks excess glutamate in the synapse and may thus reverse these downstream effects.
But it may not be so clear cut, according to Nolan Williams, MD. During a session on ketamine’s mechanism of action at the annual meeting of the American Psychiatric Association, Dr. Williams, assistant professor of psychiatry and behavioral sciences at Stanford (Calif.) University, noted that ketamine is “one of the most dirty drugs we know. It affects most neurotransmitter systems and has all sorts of downstream effects.”
Pain research has already shown that ketamine’s mechanisms can be complex. It affects the opioid system, both directly and indirectly, and an opioid receptor antagonist blocks ketamine’s pain-relieving effect.
Since opioids are also known to have antidepressant effects, it’s natural to wonder if ketamine’s mechanism also involves the opioid system. The opioid antagonist naltrexone provides a tool to study the problem. Dr. Williams reasoned that if ketamine relies in whole or in part on the opioid system for its antidepressive effect, then administering naltrexone ahead of ketamine should blunt or even eliminate its efficacy.
To examine the question, the team conducted a study of 11 patients with treatment-resistant depression. Right away, it was clear that the participants had some bias toward the treatment. “They all said the same thing to me: ‘My psychiatrist said that your study doesn’t make any sense because this is an NMDA antagonist. I’m going to get two free ketamine infusions.’ So they were preloaded with this idea that they were going to get very potent antidepressant effects (even with naltrexone),” said Dr. Williams.
The study had a crossover design and included two ketamine infusions. Participants were randomized to get either naltrexone or placebo 1 hour before the first ketamine infusion, and then were allowed to relapse back to within 20% of their baseline depression score before receiving the second ketamine infusion, when they received naltrexone or placebo, whichever hadn’t been given in the first treatment.
Of 12 who completed the study, seven responded to placebo plus ketamine treatment, and six remitted. But when they crossed over to the naltrexone arm, the result was very different: In three of four measures, there was no significant difference between the pretreatment and posttreatment results. “The same people who were almost exclusively in remission during the ketamine plus placebo condition got nothing out of ketamine plus naltrexone,” said Dr. Williams. Naltrexone had a similar negating effect on the positive response to ketamine on the suicide item of the 17-item Hamilton Rating Scale for Depression.
The researchers also looked at whether ketamine’s dissociative effect could be responsible for its activity through altering the participant’s mental state, but determined that it may be necessary for the antidepressant effect – but it is not sufficient.
We’re not saying it’s sufficient, but it appears to be quite necessary,” Dr. Williams said. He added that the results don’t mean that ketamine’s effect on NMDA is unimportant. In fact, “it’s probable that the ketamine is driving the mood in a direction, and these glutamine-related changes are probably what’s maintaining the mood in that direction,” he added.
As to the clinical impacts of his findings, Dr. Williams emphasized the need to understand the mechanisms behind the ketamine class. He pointed out that in pivotal trials of esketamine, there were six deaths, three by suicide, all of them in the esketamine group. Surprisingly, two of those who took their own lives had scored a 0 on the Columbia-Suicide Severity Scale, both at baseline and at the visit immediately preceding their deaths. The score wasn’t available for the third. “These weren’t people who were particularly dangerously suicidal. So understanding the mechanism is really important to understanding the safety of this drug, who we should give it to, and what sorts of things we should watch out for,” Dr. Williams said.
The study was funded by the National Institutes of Health, Spectrum, the Brain and Behavior Research Foundation, and Stanford Bio-X. Dr. Williams had no disclosures.
SAN FRANCISCO – Ketamine and the more recently Food and Drug Administration–approved esketamine have generated a great deal of excitement in psychiatry over their potential to treat depression and other psychiatric disorders. However, the mechanism of action is not completely understood, and efforts are underway to better understand the drugs.
Much has been made of ketamine’s interaction with the N-methyl-D-aspartate (NMDA) receptors. One belief is that chronic stress leads to the accumulation of extracellular glutamate, which leads to a range of negative consequences. Ketamine blocks excess glutamate in the synapse and may thus reverse these downstream effects.
But it may not be so clear cut, according to Nolan Williams, MD. During a session on ketamine’s mechanism of action at the annual meeting of the American Psychiatric Association, Dr. Williams, assistant professor of psychiatry and behavioral sciences at Stanford (Calif.) University, noted that ketamine is “one of the most dirty drugs we know. It affects most neurotransmitter systems and has all sorts of downstream effects.”
Pain research has already shown that ketamine’s mechanisms can be complex. It affects the opioid system, both directly and indirectly, and an opioid receptor antagonist blocks ketamine’s pain-relieving effect.
Since opioids are also known to have antidepressant effects, it’s natural to wonder if ketamine’s mechanism also involves the opioid system. The opioid antagonist naltrexone provides a tool to study the problem. Dr. Williams reasoned that if ketamine relies in whole or in part on the opioid system for its antidepressive effect, then administering naltrexone ahead of ketamine should blunt or even eliminate its efficacy.
To examine the question, the team conducted a study of 11 patients with treatment-resistant depression. Right away, it was clear that the participants had some bias toward the treatment. “They all said the same thing to me: ‘My psychiatrist said that your study doesn’t make any sense because this is an NMDA antagonist. I’m going to get two free ketamine infusions.’ So they were preloaded with this idea that they were going to get very potent antidepressant effects (even with naltrexone),” said Dr. Williams.
The study had a crossover design and included two ketamine infusions. Participants were randomized to get either naltrexone or placebo 1 hour before the first ketamine infusion, and then were allowed to relapse back to within 20% of their baseline depression score before receiving the second ketamine infusion, when they received naltrexone or placebo, whichever hadn’t been given in the first treatment.
Of 12 who completed the study, seven responded to placebo plus ketamine treatment, and six remitted. But when they crossed over to the naltrexone arm, the result was very different: In three of four measures, there was no significant difference between the pretreatment and posttreatment results. “The same people who were almost exclusively in remission during the ketamine plus placebo condition got nothing out of ketamine plus naltrexone,” said Dr. Williams. Naltrexone had a similar negating effect on the positive response to ketamine on the suicide item of the 17-item Hamilton Rating Scale for Depression.
The researchers also looked at whether ketamine’s dissociative effect could be responsible for its activity through altering the participant’s mental state, but determined that it may be necessary for the antidepressant effect – but it is not sufficient.
We’re not saying it’s sufficient, but it appears to be quite necessary,” Dr. Williams said. He added that the results don’t mean that ketamine’s effect on NMDA is unimportant. In fact, “it’s probable that the ketamine is driving the mood in a direction, and these glutamine-related changes are probably what’s maintaining the mood in that direction,” he added.
As to the clinical impacts of his findings, Dr. Williams emphasized the need to understand the mechanisms behind the ketamine class. He pointed out that in pivotal trials of esketamine, there were six deaths, three by suicide, all of them in the esketamine group. Surprisingly, two of those who took their own lives had scored a 0 on the Columbia-Suicide Severity Scale, both at baseline and at the visit immediately preceding their deaths. The score wasn’t available for the third. “These weren’t people who were particularly dangerously suicidal. So understanding the mechanism is really important to understanding the safety of this drug, who we should give it to, and what sorts of things we should watch out for,” Dr. Williams said.
The study was funded by the National Institutes of Health, Spectrum, the Brain and Behavior Research Foundation, and Stanford Bio-X. Dr. Williams had no disclosures.
REPORTING FROM APA 2019
Patients with intellectual disability require nuanced care
SAN FRANCISCO – Some physicians are uncomfortable providing mental health care to patients with intellectual disability (ID) because many of the patients’ communications skills are limited. But many resources are available that can help.
In this video, Nita V. Bhatt, MD, MPH, interviews Julie P. Gentile, MD, about some of those resources and discusses how to approach psychiatric treatment interventions for patients with ID.
In addition to the DSM-5, Dr. Gentile said the National Association for the Dually Diagnosed has published the Diagnostic Manual – Intellectual Disability. Another resource is a practical reference manual originally proposed by one of Dr. Gentile’s residents.
“He came into my office for supervision one day and said, ‘You know, there’s all these nuances for psychiatric treatment in this patient population. So we should write a practice, quick reference manual to help clinicians who aren’t able to spend as much time concentrate on this patient population.’ ”
As a result, several residents and faculty members formed a team to produce an 18-chapter book published this year by Springer called the Guide to Intellectual Disabilities: A Clinical Handbook.
Dr. Bhatt is a staff psychiatrist at Twin Valley Behavioral Healthcare, the state psychiatric hospital in Columbus, Ohio. Dr. Gentile is professor and chair of the department of psychiatry at Wright State in Dayton. She is also serves as project director of Ohio’s Telepsychiatry Project for Intellectual Disability and has been awarded more than $7 million in grant funding to support her projects in the field of ID.
Dr. Gentile’s work has been funded by the Ohio Department of Developmental Disabilities and the Ohio Department of Mental Health and Addiction Services.
SAN FRANCISCO – Some physicians are uncomfortable providing mental health care to patients with intellectual disability (ID) because many of the patients’ communications skills are limited. But many resources are available that can help.
In this video, Nita V. Bhatt, MD, MPH, interviews Julie P. Gentile, MD, about some of those resources and discusses how to approach psychiatric treatment interventions for patients with ID.
In addition to the DSM-5, Dr. Gentile said the National Association for the Dually Diagnosed has published the Diagnostic Manual – Intellectual Disability. Another resource is a practical reference manual originally proposed by one of Dr. Gentile’s residents.
“He came into my office for supervision one day and said, ‘You know, there’s all these nuances for psychiatric treatment in this patient population. So we should write a practice, quick reference manual to help clinicians who aren’t able to spend as much time concentrate on this patient population.’ ”
As a result, several residents and faculty members formed a team to produce an 18-chapter book published this year by Springer called the Guide to Intellectual Disabilities: A Clinical Handbook.
Dr. Bhatt is a staff psychiatrist at Twin Valley Behavioral Healthcare, the state psychiatric hospital in Columbus, Ohio. Dr. Gentile is professor and chair of the department of psychiatry at Wright State in Dayton. She is also serves as project director of Ohio’s Telepsychiatry Project for Intellectual Disability and has been awarded more than $7 million in grant funding to support her projects in the field of ID.
Dr. Gentile’s work has been funded by the Ohio Department of Developmental Disabilities and the Ohio Department of Mental Health and Addiction Services.
SAN FRANCISCO – Some physicians are uncomfortable providing mental health care to patients with intellectual disability (ID) because many of the patients’ communications skills are limited. But many resources are available that can help.
In this video, Nita V. Bhatt, MD, MPH, interviews Julie P. Gentile, MD, about some of those resources and discusses how to approach psychiatric treatment interventions for patients with ID.
In addition to the DSM-5, Dr. Gentile said the National Association for the Dually Diagnosed has published the Diagnostic Manual – Intellectual Disability. Another resource is a practical reference manual originally proposed by one of Dr. Gentile’s residents.
“He came into my office for supervision one day and said, ‘You know, there’s all these nuances for psychiatric treatment in this patient population. So we should write a practice, quick reference manual to help clinicians who aren’t able to spend as much time concentrate on this patient population.’ ”
As a result, several residents and faculty members formed a team to produce an 18-chapter book published this year by Springer called the Guide to Intellectual Disabilities: A Clinical Handbook.
Dr. Bhatt is a staff psychiatrist at Twin Valley Behavioral Healthcare, the state psychiatric hospital in Columbus, Ohio. Dr. Gentile is professor and chair of the department of psychiatry at Wright State in Dayton. She is also serves as project director of Ohio’s Telepsychiatry Project for Intellectual Disability and has been awarded more than $7 million in grant funding to support her projects in the field of ID.
Dr. Gentile’s work has been funded by the Ohio Department of Developmental Disabilities and the Ohio Department of Mental Health and Addiction Services.
REPORTING FROM APA 2019
How to counsel patients interested in trying marijuana
SAN FRANCISCO – It’s a common scenario, and it’s going to become more common: Psychiatric patients will be coming into the office not quite satisfied with their current treatment and wanting to try cannabis.
With laws varying from state to state and a limited but growing body of evidence, the situation “presents a complicated, often difficult clinical situation,” said David A. Gorelick, MD, PhD, professor of psychiatry at the University of Maryland, Baltimore.
There is some evidence supporting cannabis for chronic pain, neuropathic pain, spasticity in multiple sclerosis, and chemotherapy-induced nausea and vomiting. Cannabidiol is also Food and Drug Administration approved for two severe forms of pediatric epilepsy.
When it comes to psychiatric disorders, however, evidence is largely lacking. On the other hand, some patients swear by marijuana for psychiatric symptom relief.
So what to do? Dr. Gorelick, editor of the Journal of Cannabis Research, had some advice in a video interview at the annual meeting of the American Psychiatric Association.
Where it’s legal, a cannabis recommendation for pain and sleep problems is reasonable, but it’s important to figure out what’s lacking in the patients’ treatment regimen that makes them want to try cannabis, and to first try to maximize treatment with approved, evidence-based options. As with any medication, a talk about risks and benefits is also essential. There’s an increased risk of motor vehicle accidents, acute panic attacks, and other issues with cannabis. Also, keep in mind that cannabinoids, particularly tetrahydrocannabinol, are metabolized in the liver and can interfere with concentrations of other liver-metabolized drugs, including some antidepressants and anticonvulsants. It’s not clear how significant the clinical interactions are, “but if patients are on warfarin, I would be very careful,” he said.
Dr. Gorelick disclosed speaking fees from hospitals and organizations for presentations on medical cannabis and royalties from Up-to-Date for cannabis topics. He also disclosed receiving honoraria from Colorado State University, Pueblo, and from Springer for his work on the Journal of Cannabis Research.
SAN FRANCISCO – It’s a common scenario, and it’s going to become more common: Psychiatric patients will be coming into the office not quite satisfied with their current treatment and wanting to try cannabis.
With laws varying from state to state and a limited but growing body of evidence, the situation “presents a complicated, often difficult clinical situation,” said David A. Gorelick, MD, PhD, professor of psychiatry at the University of Maryland, Baltimore.
There is some evidence supporting cannabis for chronic pain, neuropathic pain, spasticity in multiple sclerosis, and chemotherapy-induced nausea and vomiting. Cannabidiol is also Food and Drug Administration approved for two severe forms of pediatric epilepsy.
When it comes to psychiatric disorders, however, evidence is largely lacking. On the other hand, some patients swear by marijuana for psychiatric symptom relief.
So what to do? Dr. Gorelick, editor of the Journal of Cannabis Research, had some advice in a video interview at the annual meeting of the American Psychiatric Association.
Where it’s legal, a cannabis recommendation for pain and sleep problems is reasonable, but it’s important to figure out what’s lacking in the patients’ treatment regimen that makes them want to try cannabis, and to first try to maximize treatment with approved, evidence-based options. As with any medication, a talk about risks and benefits is also essential. There’s an increased risk of motor vehicle accidents, acute panic attacks, and other issues with cannabis. Also, keep in mind that cannabinoids, particularly tetrahydrocannabinol, are metabolized in the liver and can interfere with concentrations of other liver-metabolized drugs, including some antidepressants and anticonvulsants. It’s not clear how significant the clinical interactions are, “but if patients are on warfarin, I would be very careful,” he said.
Dr. Gorelick disclosed speaking fees from hospitals and organizations for presentations on medical cannabis and royalties from Up-to-Date for cannabis topics. He also disclosed receiving honoraria from Colorado State University, Pueblo, and from Springer for his work on the Journal of Cannabis Research.
SAN FRANCISCO – It’s a common scenario, and it’s going to become more common: Psychiatric patients will be coming into the office not quite satisfied with their current treatment and wanting to try cannabis.
With laws varying from state to state and a limited but growing body of evidence, the situation “presents a complicated, often difficult clinical situation,” said David A. Gorelick, MD, PhD, professor of psychiatry at the University of Maryland, Baltimore.
There is some evidence supporting cannabis for chronic pain, neuropathic pain, spasticity in multiple sclerosis, and chemotherapy-induced nausea and vomiting. Cannabidiol is also Food and Drug Administration approved for two severe forms of pediatric epilepsy.
When it comes to psychiatric disorders, however, evidence is largely lacking. On the other hand, some patients swear by marijuana for psychiatric symptom relief.
So what to do? Dr. Gorelick, editor of the Journal of Cannabis Research, had some advice in a video interview at the annual meeting of the American Psychiatric Association.
Where it’s legal, a cannabis recommendation for pain and sleep problems is reasonable, but it’s important to figure out what’s lacking in the patients’ treatment regimen that makes them want to try cannabis, and to first try to maximize treatment with approved, evidence-based options. As with any medication, a talk about risks and benefits is also essential. There’s an increased risk of motor vehicle accidents, acute panic attacks, and other issues with cannabis. Also, keep in mind that cannabinoids, particularly tetrahydrocannabinol, are metabolized in the liver and can interfere with concentrations of other liver-metabolized drugs, including some antidepressants and anticonvulsants. It’s not clear how significant the clinical interactions are, “but if patients are on warfarin, I would be very careful,” he said.
Dr. Gorelick disclosed speaking fees from hospitals and organizations for presentations on medical cannabis and royalties from Up-to-Date for cannabis topics. He also disclosed receiving honoraria from Colorado State University, Pueblo, and from Springer for his work on the Journal of Cannabis Research.
REPORTING FROM APA 2019
Navigating racism while in medical training
SAN FRANCISCO – When Jessica Isom, MD, MPH, and her colleagues noticed the absence of good role modeling about how to address race and racism in interactions with supervisors at their long-term care clinic, they conducted a research study.
“Now, we’re working on rolling out what those solutions might be for addressing this gap in the education,” said Dr. Isom, a PGY-4 resident at Yale University, New Haven, Conn. Many of the issues Dr. Isom and her colleagues found are reminiscent of those identified almost 50 years ago by Billy E. Jones, MD, and his colleagues. Their article (1970 Dec; 127[6]:798-803) focusing on the problems of black residents in predominantly white institutions was published in the American Journal of Psychiatry, Constance E. Dunlap, MD, said at the annual meeting of the American Psychiatric Association.
In this video, Dr. Dunlap interviews Dr. Isom about her experiences with both supervisors and patients on issues tied to race and racism – and examines possible solutions.
In one case, Dr. Isom said she created an opening for discussion with a supervisor by advising him to read the book White Fragility (Beacon Press, 2018). “He read the book,” Dr. Isom said. “And And he’s thinking about these things now as a white man and his relationship to racism. So that’s sort of a positive outcome from having that conversation in the first place.”
In another case involving a patient who declined treatment from Dr. Isom and an Asian male medical student, Dr. Isom said she respected the patient’s wishes and walked out of the room. When she shared the experience with her team, the incident was not addressed.
Dr. Isom’s experiences reflects that of African Americans and other ethnic minorities in the United States, Dr. Dunlap said. “I think about being in junior high school and reading ... and doing my own study outside of school and that has carried through college, medical school, and even in residency – and definitely psychoanalytic training – where psychoanalysts like Frantz Fanon, Frances Cress Welsing, even Dorothy Holmes ... were not included in the mainstream curriculum.” However, those thinkers are included in some curricula now.
“This is an example of how medicine and psychoanalysis have been functioning in parallel with the way the country functions,” Dr. Dunlap said. “This is a huge blind spot.”
Dr. Isom worked on the research study with fellow residents* Myra Mathis, MD; Flavia DeSouza, MHS, MD; and Natalie Lastra, MD. Dr. Isom is member of the American Psychiatric Association Assembly as the area 1 representative for resident fellow members. She also is one of the chief residents of diversity and inclusion, and a codirector of the social justice and health equity curriculum at the department of psychiatry at Yale. Dr. Dunlap is a psychiatrist and psychoanalyst with more than 25 years’ experience in clinical care, psychiatric education, patient advocacy, and community outreach. She is a member of the APA assembly representing the Washington Psychiatric Society. Dr. Isom and Dr. Dunlap had no disclosures.
*CLARIFICATION, 5/22/2019
SAN FRANCISCO – When Jessica Isom, MD, MPH, and her colleagues noticed the absence of good role modeling about how to address race and racism in interactions with supervisors at their long-term care clinic, they conducted a research study.
“Now, we’re working on rolling out what those solutions might be for addressing this gap in the education,” said Dr. Isom, a PGY-4 resident at Yale University, New Haven, Conn. Many of the issues Dr. Isom and her colleagues found are reminiscent of those identified almost 50 years ago by Billy E. Jones, MD, and his colleagues. Their article (1970 Dec; 127[6]:798-803) focusing on the problems of black residents in predominantly white institutions was published in the American Journal of Psychiatry, Constance E. Dunlap, MD, said at the annual meeting of the American Psychiatric Association.
In this video, Dr. Dunlap interviews Dr. Isom about her experiences with both supervisors and patients on issues tied to race and racism – and examines possible solutions.
In one case, Dr. Isom said she created an opening for discussion with a supervisor by advising him to read the book White Fragility (Beacon Press, 2018). “He read the book,” Dr. Isom said. “And And he’s thinking about these things now as a white man and his relationship to racism. So that’s sort of a positive outcome from having that conversation in the first place.”
In another case involving a patient who declined treatment from Dr. Isom and an Asian male medical student, Dr. Isom said she respected the patient’s wishes and walked out of the room. When she shared the experience with her team, the incident was not addressed.
Dr. Isom’s experiences reflects that of African Americans and other ethnic minorities in the United States, Dr. Dunlap said. “I think about being in junior high school and reading ... and doing my own study outside of school and that has carried through college, medical school, and even in residency – and definitely psychoanalytic training – where psychoanalysts like Frantz Fanon, Frances Cress Welsing, even Dorothy Holmes ... were not included in the mainstream curriculum.” However, those thinkers are included in some curricula now.
“This is an example of how medicine and psychoanalysis have been functioning in parallel with the way the country functions,” Dr. Dunlap said. “This is a huge blind spot.”
Dr. Isom worked on the research study with fellow residents* Myra Mathis, MD; Flavia DeSouza, MHS, MD; and Natalie Lastra, MD. Dr. Isom is member of the American Psychiatric Association Assembly as the area 1 representative for resident fellow members. She also is one of the chief residents of diversity and inclusion, and a codirector of the social justice and health equity curriculum at the department of psychiatry at Yale. Dr. Dunlap is a psychiatrist and psychoanalyst with more than 25 years’ experience in clinical care, psychiatric education, patient advocacy, and community outreach. She is a member of the APA assembly representing the Washington Psychiatric Society. Dr. Isom and Dr. Dunlap had no disclosures.
*CLARIFICATION, 5/22/2019
SAN FRANCISCO – When Jessica Isom, MD, MPH, and her colleagues noticed the absence of good role modeling about how to address race and racism in interactions with supervisors at their long-term care clinic, they conducted a research study.
“Now, we’re working on rolling out what those solutions might be for addressing this gap in the education,” said Dr. Isom, a PGY-4 resident at Yale University, New Haven, Conn. Many of the issues Dr. Isom and her colleagues found are reminiscent of those identified almost 50 years ago by Billy E. Jones, MD, and his colleagues. Their article (1970 Dec; 127[6]:798-803) focusing on the problems of black residents in predominantly white institutions was published in the American Journal of Psychiatry, Constance E. Dunlap, MD, said at the annual meeting of the American Psychiatric Association.
In this video, Dr. Dunlap interviews Dr. Isom about her experiences with both supervisors and patients on issues tied to race and racism – and examines possible solutions.
In one case, Dr. Isom said she created an opening for discussion with a supervisor by advising him to read the book White Fragility (Beacon Press, 2018). “He read the book,” Dr. Isom said. “And And he’s thinking about these things now as a white man and his relationship to racism. So that’s sort of a positive outcome from having that conversation in the first place.”
In another case involving a patient who declined treatment from Dr. Isom and an Asian male medical student, Dr. Isom said she respected the patient’s wishes and walked out of the room. When she shared the experience with her team, the incident was not addressed.
Dr. Isom’s experiences reflects that of African Americans and other ethnic minorities in the United States, Dr. Dunlap said. “I think about being in junior high school and reading ... and doing my own study outside of school and that has carried through college, medical school, and even in residency – and definitely psychoanalytic training – where psychoanalysts like Frantz Fanon, Frances Cress Welsing, even Dorothy Holmes ... were not included in the mainstream curriculum.” However, those thinkers are included in some curricula now.
“This is an example of how medicine and psychoanalysis have been functioning in parallel with the way the country functions,” Dr. Dunlap said. “This is a huge blind spot.”
Dr. Isom worked on the research study with fellow residents* Myra Mathis, MD; Flavia DeSouza, MHS, MD; and Natalie Lastra, MD. Dr. Isom is member of the American Psychiatric Association Assembly as the area 1 representative for resident fellow members. She also is one of the chief residents of diversity and inclusion, and a codirector of the social justice and health equity curriculum at the department of psychiatry at Yale. Dr. Dunlap is a psychiatrist and psychoanalyst with more than 25 years’ experience in clinical care, psychiatric education, patient advocacy, and community outreach. She is a member of the APA assembly representing the Washington Psychiatric Society. Dr. Isom and Dr. Dunlap had no disclosures.
*CLARIFICATION, 5/22/2019
REPORTING FROM APA 2019
Acting up at APA
SAN FRANCISCO – A number of years ago, Anne Hanson, Steve Daviss, and I worked together on a psychiatry podcast called “My Three Shrinks.” In the course of making the podcast, Dr. Daviss suggested the three of us should take an improv class together – he felt it would help us blend together better as we interacted to create these dialogues.
We met on Sunday afternoons around one of our dining room tables, often with chili and beer, sometimes with guest psychiatrists, and over the course of a few years, we produced 70 episodes. But we never did take that improv class together.
Steve conveyed that in improv, it’s bad to say, “No, but ...” and instead, one should say, “Yes, and ...” to build upon a theme while working in concert with others. With this limited background, I decided that at this year’s American Psychiatric Association meeting in San Francisco I would report on a session called “You Are Human: Addressing Burnout Through Improv,” organized by Tristan Gorrindo, MD, the director of education and deputy medical director for the APA, and Ashley Whitehurst, a program manager in continuing medical education and faculty at the Second City Training Center, a Chicago-based comedy institution. The session was held on Tuesday morning and was attended by psychiatrists of all training levels. Name badges revealed that attendees were from across the United States and from Canada, Mexico, and one psychiatrist from South Africa.
Before I write about the session on using improv to address physician burnout, I’d like to back up a day, as this was not the first session I found at APA where people were acting out! On Monday, I had gone to a workshop called “Inside OCD: I Am Not My Illness.” I went with the hope of learning something about obsessive-compulsive disorder that I could use to help my patients who suffer from this disorder, with no intention of writing about the session. I was running quite late and chose the session based solely on the title. I stumbled into a rather unusual venue: Patients with OCD were putting on a performance where they discussed how it was to live with the symptoms of this disabling illness, stretched into a humorous storytelling adventure.
The performance group, a joint venture of the Center for Arts in Medicine at the University of Florida in partnership with University of Florida Center for OCD, Anxiety, & Related Disorders consisted of patients who came together in a 10-week course with an acting coach, a resident psychiatrist who participated with the group, and the oversight of their attending psychiatrist, Carol Mathews, MD, to create this collaborative and moving theatrical performance. The group performed, then talked about how this endeavor had helped them to share their stories, to grow in their self-acceptance and self-confidence, and to enjoy a sense of community, and escape from shame and loneliness.
On Monday, I went from the OCD theater to a session called “Unscripting: Using Improvisational Theatre to Move Beyond Personal Limitations.” This workshop was led by Jeffrey Katzman, MD, a psychiatrist who practices in Albuquerque, N.M., and coauthor of “Life Unscripted: Using Improv Principles to Get Unstuck, Boost Confidence, and Transform Your Life.” Dr. Katzman referenced how improv requires the participants to collaborate and respond to one another in ways that are not unlike what occurs in psychotherapy.
“It’s about two people listening to each other, reacting to each other, and ultimately regulating one another.”
A second speaker, Peter Felsman, PhD, LMSW, presented his doctoral dissertation work looking at how improv classes might impact teens with anxiety disorders.
It was at this session that I had my first experiences actually doing some improv exercises. “Improv involves increasing your uncertainty tolerance,” Dr. Katzman noted. “The available scripts are much broader than what you are used to, and they increase the sense of autonomy.” Participants were challenged to work at mirroring the actions of a partner, of switching who was leading in these exercises, and of telling stories where we built upon what the last person gave to the tale by adding unpredictable paths of plot development.
The Tuesday morning session was longer; it lasted from 8 a.m. to 11 a.m. I arrived early, and the first name tag I saw was that of Steven Reidbord, MD, a psychiatrist in San Francisco whom I had never met, but with whom I had interacted many times over the years as we both have had psychiatry blogs. I was delighted as I started the session. Dr. Gorrindo started the symposium by defining physician burnout and discussing how our current system fuels burnout. He discussed his own interest in improv and its use to foster more creative, flexible, and collaborative responses.
Ashley Whitehurst then led the participants in a series of exercises. We walked around the room taking unscripted turns yelling out “I am a star” while the rest of the participants clustered around to frame each individual star! We took partners and discussed a toy each of us had longed for and never gotten in childhood, then created a fictional toy as conglomerate of those toys never received. This light exercise included conversations about the sadness of the toys longed for and the disappointments we’d suffered. One psychiatrist felt gratitude: She had received most of the toys she’d wanted. There were others who’d wanted a real pony or a real typewriter, only to be gifted with disappointing plastic versions. One gentleman longed for a sibling who had died before he had even been born; there were no toys for this space.
Our circle conversations moved into tales we created by interrupting one another with our associations about what we loved and hated; there was the annoyance of having sand in your underwear and superheros who deliver ice cream. We all talked about what it involved to let go of our own agendas and fold into what was going on in the moment, to sway with a plot that changed as soon as it was formed, to function with rules so different from what we were used to. We discussed how improv might be useful in teaching trainees.
“This was interesting and different,” said Sergio Lobato, MD, a psychiatrist from Tijuana, Mexico, who retired after more than 30 years of working in a government hospital. “I saw 20 to 30 patients a day, and there was some burnout. I’m here at the meeting and trying to learn things to help my daughter, who is in her third year of psychiatry training.”
Ms. Whitehurst, our improv instructor, has done many of these workshops with people of all ages and with other groups of physicians. “When people sign up for improv classes, they usually have some idea what they are getting into. With doctors at a conference, it takes just a little longer for them to let their guard down. Improv is an art form and a way to create, it’s a great equalizer and I’ve noticed an evolution in myself as it has changed how I interact. ”
Veronica Samet, a PGY-4 resident from Emory University, Atlanta, added: “In psychiatry, we are taught to leave space in the room for the other person. You get used to compressing yourself into something neutral and it’s hard not to bring that state home. This experience was revitalizing!”
I was delighted to find a friend when I walked into the morning symposium and by the time I left, I felt like I’d made a roomful of friends. We’d played games and I was completely consumed by the tasks at hand. We talked about how each game made us feel, and in some ways this was not all that far off from work as a psychiatrist – the humor and fun were on the surface, but ... or rather, “ ... yes, and” the stories that went along with what we did made for a moment of connection in a whole new way.
Dr. Miller is coauthor with Annette Hanson, MD, of “Committed: The Battle Over Involuntary Psychiatric Care,” (Baltimore: Johns Hopkins University Press, 2016). She has a private practice in Baltimore.
SAN FRANCISCO – A number of years ago, Anne Hanson, Steve Daviss, and I worked together on a psychiatry podcast called “My Three Shrinks.” In the course of making the podcast, Dr. Daviss suggested the three of us should take an improv class together – he felt it would help us blend together better as we interacted to create these dialogues.
We met on Sunday afternoons around one of our dining room tables, often with chili and beer, sometimes with guest psychiatrists, and over the course of a few years, we produced 70 episodes. But we never did take that improv class together.
Steve conveyed that in improv, it’s bad to say, “No, but ...” and instead, one should say, “Yes, and ...” to build upon a theme while working in concert with others. With this limited background, I decided that at this year’s American Psychiatric Association meeting in San Francisco I would report on a session called “You Are Human: Addressing Burnout Through Improv,” organized by Tristan Gorrindo, MD, the director of education and deputy medical director for the APA, and Ashley Whitehurst, a program manager in continuing medical education and faculty at the Second City Training Center, a Chicago-based comedy institution. The session was held on Tuesday morning and was attended by psychiatrists of all training levels. Name badges revealed that attendees were from across the United States and from Canada, Mexico, and one psychiatrist from South Africa.
Before I write about the session on using improv to address physician burnout, I’d like to back up a day, as this was not the first session I found at APA where people were acting out! On Monday, I had gone to a workshop called “Inside OCD: I Am Not My Illness.” I went with the hope of learning something about obsessive-compulsive disorder that I could use to help my patients who suffer from this disorder, with no intention of writing about the session. I was running quite late and chose the session based solely on the title. I stumbled into a rather unusual venue: Patients with OCD were putting on a performance where they discussed how it was to live with the symptoms of this disabling illness, stretched into a humorous storytelling adventure.
The performance group, a joint venture of the Center for Arts in Medicine at the University of Florida in partnership with University of Florida Center for OCD, Anxiety, & Related Disorders consisted of patients who came together in a 10-week course with an acting coach, a resident psychiatrist who participated with the group, and the oversight of their attending psychiatrist, Carol Mathews, MD, to create this collaborative and moving theatrical performance. The group performed, then talked about how this endeavor had helped them to share their stories, to grow in their self-acceptance and self-confidence, and to enjoy a sense of community, and escape from shame and loneliness.
On Monday, I went from the OCD theater to a session called “Unscripting: Using Improvisational Theatre to Move Beyond Personal Limitations.” This workshop was led by Jeffrey Katzman, MD, a psychiatrist who practices in Albuquerque, N.M., and coauthor of “Life Unscripted: Using Improv Principles to Get Unstuck, Boost Confidence, and Transform Your Life.” Dr. Katzman referenced how improv requires the participants to collaborate and respond to one another in ways that are not unlike what occurs in psychotherapy.
“It’s about two people listening to each other, reacting to each other, and ultimately regulating one another.”
A second speaker, Peter Felsman, PhD, LMSW, presented his doctoral dissertation work looking at how improv classes might impact teens with anxiety disorders.
It was at this session that I had my first experiences actually doing some improv exercises. “Improv involves increasing your uncertainty tolerance,” Dr. Katzman noted. “The available scripts are much broader than what you are used to, and they increase the sense of autonomy.” Participants were challenged to work at mirroring the actions of a partner, of switching who was leading in these exercises, and of telling stories where we built upon what the last person gave to the tale by adding unpredictable paths of plot development.
The Tuesday morning session was longer; it lasted from 8 a.m. to 11 a.m. I arrived early, and the first name tag I saw was that of Steven Reidbord, MD, a psychiatrist in San Francisco whom I had never met, but with whom I had interacted many times over the years as we both have had psychiatry blogs. I was delighted as I started the session. Dr. Gorrindo started the symposium by defining physician burnout and discussing how our current system fuels burnout. He discussed his own interest in improv and its use to foster more creative, flexible, and collaborative responses.
Ashley Whitehurst then led the participants in a series of exercises. We walked around the room taking unscripted turns yelling out “I am a star” while the rest of the participants clustered around to frame each individual star! We took partners and discussed a toy each of us had longed for and never gotten in childhood, then created a fictional toy as conglomerate of those toys never received. This light exercise included conversations about the sadness of the toys longed for and the disappointments we’d suffered. One psychiatrist felt gratitude: She had received most of the toys she’d wanted. There were others who’d wanted a real pony or a real typewriter, only to be gifted with disappointing plastic versions. One gentleman longed for a sibling who had died before he had even been born; there were no toys for this space.
Our circle conversations moved into tales we created by interrupting one another with our associations about what we loved and hated; there was the annoyance of having sand in your underwear and superheros who deliver ice cream. We all talked about what it involved to let go of our own agendas and fold into what was going on in the moment, to sway with a plot that changed as soon as it was formed, to function with rules so different from what we were used to. We discussed how improv might be useful in teaching trainees.
“This was interesting and different,” said Sergio Lobato, MD, a psychiatrist from Tijuana, Mexico, who retired after more than 30 years of working in a government hospital. “I saw 20 to 30 patients a day, and there was some burnout. I’m here at the meeting and trying to learn things to help my daughter, who is in her third year of psychiatry training.”
Ms. Whitehurst, our improv instructor, has done many of these workshops with people of all ages and with other groups of physicians. “When people sign up for improv classes, they usually have some idea what they are getting into. With doctors at a conference, it takes just a little longer for them to let their guard down. Improv is an art form and a way to create, it’s a great equalizer and I’ve noticed an evolution in myself as it has changed how I interact. ”
Veronica Samet, a PGY-4 resident from Emory University, Atlanta, added: “In psychiatry, we are taught to leave space in the room for the other person. You get used to compressing yourself into something neutral and it’s hard not to bring that state home. This experience was revitalizing!”
I was delighted to find a friend when I walked into the morning symposium and by the time I left, I felt like I’d made a roomful of friends. We’d played games and I was completely consumed by the tasks at hand. We talked about how each game made us feel, and in some ways this was not all that far off from work as a psychiatrist – the humor and fun were on the surface, but ... or rather, “ ... yes, and” the stories that went along with what we did made for a moment of connection in a whole new way.
Dr. Miller is coauthor with Annette Hanson, MD, of “Committed: The Battle Over Involuntary Psychiatric Care,” (Baltimore: Johns Hopkins University Press, 2016). She has a private practice in Baltimore.
SAN FRANCISCO – A number of years ago, Anne Hanson, Steve Daviss, and I worked together on a psychiatry podcast called “My Three Shrinks.” In the course of making the podcast, Dr. Daviss suggested the three of us should take an improv class together – he felt it would help us blend together better as we interacted to create these dialogues.
We met on Sunday afternoons around one of our dining room tables, often with chili and beer, sometimes with guest psychiatrists, and over the course of a few years, we produced 70 episodes. But we never did take that improv class together.
Steve conveyed that in improv, it’s bad to say, “No, but ...” and instead, one should say, “Yes, and ...” to build upon a theme while working in concert with others. With this limited background, I decided that at this year’s American Psychiatric Association meeting in San Francisco I would report on a session called “You Are Human: Addressing Burnout Through Improv,” organized by Tristan Gorrindo, MD, the director of education and deputy medical director for the APA, and Ashley Whitehurst, a program manager in continuing medical education and faculty at the Second City Training Center, a Chicago-based comedy institution. The session was held on Tuesday morning and was attended by psychiatrists of all training levels. Name badges revealed that attendees were from across the United States and from Canada, Mexico, and one psychiatrist from South Africa.
Before I write about the session on using improv to address physician burnout, I’d like to back up a day, as this was not the first session I found at APA where people were acting out! On Monday, I had gone to a workshop called “Inside OCD: I Am Not My Illness.” I went with the hope of learning something about obsessive-compulsive disorder that I could use to help my patients who suffer from this disorder, with no intention of writing about the session. I was running quite late and chose the session based solely on the title. I stumbled into a rather unusual venue: Patients with OCD were putting on a performance where they discussed how it was to live with the symptoms of this disabling illness, stretched into a humorous storytelling adventure.
The performance group, a joint venture of the Center for Arts in Medicine at the University of Florida in partnership with University of Florida Center for OCD, Anxiety, & Related Disorders consisted of patients who came together in a 10-week course with an acting coach, a resident psychiatrist who participated with the group, and the oversight of their attending psychiatrist, Carol Mathews, MD, to create this collaborative and moving theatrical performance. The group performed, then talked about how this endeavor had helped them to share their stories, to grow in their self-acceptance and self-confidence, and to enjoy a sense of community, and escape from shame and loneliness.
On Monday, I went from the OCD theater to a session called “Unscripting: Using Improvisational Theatre to Move Beyond Personal Limitations.” This workshop was led by Jeffrey Katzman, MD, a psychiatrist who practices in Albuquerque, N.M., and coauthor of “Life Unscripted: Using Improv Principles to Get Unstuck, Boost Confidence, and Transform Your Life.” Dr. Katzman referenced how improv requires the participants to collaborate and respond to one another in ways that are not unlike what occurs in psychotherapy.
“It’s about two people listening to each other, reacting to each other, and ultimately regulating one another.”
A second speaker, Peter Felsman, PhD, LMSW, presented his doctoral dissertation work looking at how improv classes might impact teens with anxiety disorders.
It was at this session that I had my first experiences actually doing some improv exercises. “Improv involves increasing your uncertainty tolerance,” Dr. Katzman noted. “The available scripts are much broader than what you are used to, and they increase the sense of autonomy.” Participants were challenged to work at mirroring the actions of a partner, of switching who was leading in these exercises, and of telling stories where we built upon what the last person gave to the tale by adding unpredictable paths of plot development.
The Tuesday morning session was longer; it lasted from 8 a.m. to 11 a.m. I arrived early, and the first name tag I saw was that of Steven Reidbord, MD, a psychiatrist in San Francisco whom I had never met, but with whom I had interacted many times over the years as we both have had psychiatry blogs. I was delighted as I started the session. Dr. Gorrindo started the symposium by defining physician burnout and discussing how our current system fuels burnout. He discussed his own interest in improv and its use to foster more creative, flexible, and collaborative responses.
Ashley Whitehurst then led the participants in a series of exercises. We walked around the room taking unscripted turns yelling out “I am a star” while the rest of the participants clustered around to frame each individual star! We took partners and discussed a toy each of us had longed for and never gotten in childhood, then created a fictional toy as conglomerate of those toys never received. This light exercise included conversations about the sadness of the toys longed for and the disappointments we’d suffered. One psychiatrist felt gratitude: She had received most of the toys she’d wanted. There were others who’d wanted a real pony or a real typewriter, only to be gifted with disappointing plastic versions. One gentleman longed for a sibling who had died before he had even been born; there were no toys for this space.
Our circle conversations moved into tales we created by interrupting one another with our associations about what we loved and hated; there was the annoyance of having sand in your underwear and superheros who deliver ice cream. We all talked about what it involved to let go of our own agendas and fold into what was going on in the moment, to sway with a plot that changed as soon as it was formed, to function with rules so different from what we were used to. We discussed how improv might be useful in teaching trainees.
“This was interesting and different,” said Sergio Lobato, MD, a psychiatrist from Tijuana, Mexico, who retired after more than 30 years of working in a government hospital. “I saw 20 to 30 patients a day, and there was some burnout. I’m here at the meeting and trying to learn things to help my daughter, who is in her third year of psychiatry training.”
Ms. Whitehurst, our improv instructor, has done many of these workshops with people of all ages and with other groups of physicians. “When people sign up for improv classes, they usually have some idea what they are getting into. With doctors at a conference, it takes just a little longer for them to let their guard down. Improv is an art form and a way to create, it’s a great equalizer and I’ve noticed an evolution in myself as it has changed how I interact. ”
Veronica Samet, a PGY-4 resident from Emory University, Atlanta, added: “In psychiatry, we are taught to leave space in the room for the other person. You get used to compressing yourself into something neutral and it’s hard not to bring that state home. This experience was revitalizing!”
I was delighted to find a friend when I walked into the morning symposium and by the time I left, I felt like I’d made a roomful of friends. We’d played games and I was completely consumed by the tasks at hand. We talked about how each game made us feel, and in some ways this was not all that far off from work as a psychiatrist – the humor and fun were on the surface, but ... or rather, “ ... yes, and” the stories that went along with what we did made for a moment of connection in a whole new way.
Dr. Miller is coauthor with Annette Hanson, MD, of “Committed: The Battle Over Involuntary Psychiatric Care,” (Baltimore: Johns Hopkins University Press, 2016). She has a private practice in Baltimore.
Weight can block psychiatric facility admission
SAN FRANCISCO – Not too long ago, a 42-year-old homeless man could not leave the Los Angeles County Hospital because he was too heavy.
He had been admitted on a 72-hour involuntary psychiatric hold because he was suicidal; he had a history of severe depression and had made several attempts in the past. He had few social connections and had come in covered in lice after sleeping outdoors for months. He was mobile, but barely so, with the help of a walker.
He was cleaned up and medically stabilized at the hospital, but when it came time to transfer him to a psychiatric facility, no one would take him because he was morbidly obese, with a body mass index (BMI) of 53 mg/m2.
“We noticed this had happened with other patients. It wasn’t just this one case, so we” decided to take a closer look, said Katherine Camfield, MD, a psychiatric resident at Los Angeles County Hospital.
She and her colleagues called 43 inpatient psychiatric facilities in L.A. County. It turned out that 41, more than 60% of the total and including both public and private facilities, had weight restrictions. Staff members at the remaining two facilities were unsure.
For 2 hospitals, it was a BMI above 50; for 17, a weight above 350 pounds; and for 6, a weight above 300 pounds. Three had a limit of just 250 pounds. Others decided on a case-by-case basis. About 10% of the people put on psychiatric holds at the L.A. County Hospital weigh 250 pounds or more and therefore would not meet the weight limits at many facilities.
Some hospitals cited concerns about staff injuries from moving – or trying to calm – a large patient. Others said they did not have lifts and other specialized equipment or that their beds could not handle the weight. Others did not really give a reason.
County hospitals “are not a very therapeutic milieu; staff and nursing aren’t necessarily trained for unstable psychiatric patients,” Dr. Camfield said at the American Psychiatric Association annual meeting.
“Honestly, having a mental illness alone increases your risk of obesity, and then we give a lot of medications that increase the risk” even more. “It’s a vicious cycle,” and one that raises the issue of discrimination, although “whether these routine denials to access psychiatric hospitalization violate antidiscrimination laws is unclear,” she said.
She and her colleagues plan to take a deeper dive into the issue, to find out how widespread the problem is, and the reasons behind it. They are also interested in cost; “a county facility has limited resources; are they being misallocated because these patients are stuck in the hospital?” Dr. Camfield wondered.
The homeless man never made to a psychiatric facility. He was put on antidepressants and stayed in the county hospital for 20 days, until he was no longer suicidal. He then was transferred to skilled nursing facility.
There was no external funding, and Dr. Camfield had no disclosures.
SAN FRANCISCO – Not too long ago, a 42-year-old homeless man could not leave the Los Angeles County Hospital because he was too heavy.
He had been admitted on a 72-hour involuntary psychiatric hold because he was suicidal; he had a history of severe depression and had made several attempts in the past. He had few social connections and had come in covered in lice after sleeping outdoors for months. He was mobile, but barely so, with the help of a walker.
He was cleaned up and medically stabilized at the hospital, but when it came time to transfer him to a psychiatric facility, no one would take him because he was morbidly obese, with a body mass index (BMI) of 53 mg/m2.
“We noticed this had happened with other patients. It wasn’t just this one case, so we” decided to take a closer look, said Katherine Camfield, MD, a psychiatric resident at Los Angeles County Hospital.
She and her colleagues called 43 inpatient psychiatric facilities in L.A. County. It turned out that 41, more than 60% of the total and including both public and private facilities, had weight restrictions. Staff members at the remaining two facilities were unsure.
For 2 hospitals, it was a BMI above 50; for 17, a weight above 350 pounds; and for 6, a weight above 300 pounds. Three had a limit of just 250 pounds. Others decided on a case-by-case basis. About 10% of the people put on psychiatric holds at the L.A. County Hospital weigh 250 pounds or more and therefore would not meet the weight limits at many facilities.
Some hospitals cited concerns about staff injuries from moving – or trying to calm – a large patient. Others said they did not have lifts and other specialized equipment or that their beds could not handle the weight. Others did not really give a reason.
County hospitals “are not a very therapeutic milieu; staff and nursing aren’t necessarily trained for unstable psychiatric patients,” Dr. Camfield said at the American Psychiatric Association annual meeting.
“Honestly, having a mental illness alone increases your risk of obesity, and then we give a lot of medications that increase the risk” even more. “It’s a vicious cycle,” and one that raises the issue of discrimination, although “whether these routine denials to access psychiatric hospitalization violate antidiscrimination laws is unclear,” she said.
She and her colleagues plan to take a deeper dive into the issue, to find out how widespread the problem is, and the reasons behind it. They are also interested in cost; “a county facility has limited resources; are they being misallocated because these patients are stuck in the hospital?” Dr. Camfield wondered.
The homeless man never made to a psychiatric facility. He was put on antidepressants and stayed in the county hospital for 20 days, until he was no longer suicidal. He then was transferred to skilled nursing facility.
There was no external funding, and Dr. Camfield had no disclosures.
SAN FRANCISCO – Not too long ago, a 42-year-old homeless man could not leave the Los Angeles County Hospital because he was too heavy.
He had been admitted on a 72-hour involuntary psychiatric hold because he was suicidal; he had a history of severe depression and had made several attempts in the past. He had few social connections and had come in covered in lice after sleeping outdoors for months. He was mobile, but barely so, with the help of a walker.
He was cleaned up and medically stabilized at the hospital, but when it came time to transfer him to a psychiatric facility, no one would take him because he was morbidly obese, with a body mass index (BMI) of 53 mg/m2.
“We noticed this had happened with other patients. It wasn’t just this one case, so we” decided to take a closer look, said Katherine Camfield, MD, a psychiatric resident at Los Angeles County Hospital.
She and her colleagues called 43 inpatient psychiatric facilities in L.A. County. It turned out that 41, more than 60% of the total and including both public and private facilities, had weight restrictions. Staff members at the remaining two facilities were unsure.
For 2 hospitals, it was a BMI above 50; for 17, a weight above 350 pounds; and for 6, a weight above 300 pounds. Three had a limit of just 250 pounds. Others decided on a case-by-case basis. About 10% of the people put on psychiatric holds at the L.A. County Hospital weigh 250 pounds or more and therefore would not meet the weight limits at many facilities.
Some hospitals cited concerns about staff injuries from moving – or trying to calm – a large patient. Others said they did not have lifts and other specialized equipment or that their beds could not handle the weight. Others did not really give a reason.
County hospitals “are not a very therapeutic milieu; staff and nursing aren’t necessarily trained for unstable psychiatric patients,” Dr. Camfield said at the American Psychiatric Association annual meeting.
“Honestly, having a mental illness alone increases your risk of obesity, and then we give a lot of medications that increase the risk” even more. “It’s a vicious cycle,” and one that raises the issue of discrimination, although “whether these routine denials to access psychiatric hospitalization violate antidiscrimination laws is unclear,” she said.
She and her colleagues plan to take a deeper dive into the issue, to find out how widespread the problem is, and the reasons behind it. They are also interested in cost; “a county facility has limited resources; are they being misallocated because these patients are stuck in the hospital?” Dr. Camfield wondered.
The homeless man never made to a psychiatric facility. He was put on antidepressants and stayed in the county hospital for 20 days, until he was no longer suicidal. He then was transferred to skilled nursing facility.
There was no external funding, and Dr. Camfield had no disclosures.
REPORTING FROM APA 2019
Psychiatrists urged to raise awareness about human trafficking
SAN FRANCISCO – Psychiatrists see and interact with people who are being sex and labor trafficked “all the time” – and can learn more about how to identify these individuals, Rachel Robitz, MD, said at the annual meeting of the American Psychiatric Association.
In an exclusive video, Mollie Gordon, MD, interviewed Dr. Robitz about the intersection between trafficking and mental health. “What scares me the most is some of the statistics about self-harm,” said Dr. Robitz. “One study of sex-trafficked adults found that about 40% of them had a history of a suicide attempt. A study of sex-trafficked minors found that about 30% of them had a history of moderate to severe self-harm behavior.”
Dr. Robitz said. Other resources include those provided by the Department of Health & Human Services’s Office on Trafficking in Persons.
Dr. Robitz, who is double boarded in psychiatry and family medicine, is with the University of California, Davis. She previously worked for a program for homeless youth and for many programs aimed at helping adult and youth survivors of human trafficking. Dr. Robitz has no disclosures. Dr. Gordon is associate professor of psychiatry in the Menninger department of behavioral health at Baylor College of Medicine, Houston. She is a founding member of the Houston Area Human Trafficking Health Care Consortium. Dr. Gordon has no disclosures.
SAN FRANCISCO – Psychiatrists see and interact with people who are being sex and labor trafficked “all the time” – and can learn more about how to identify these individuals, Rachel Robitz, MD, said at the annual meeting of the American Psychiatric Association.
In an exclusive video, Mollie Gordon, MD, interviewed Dr. Robitz about the intersection between trafficking and mental health. “What scares me the most is some of the statistics about self-harm,” said Dr. Robitz. “One study of sex-trafficked adults found that about 40% of them had a history of a suicide attempt. A study of sex-trafficked minors found that about 30% of them had a history of moderate to severe self-harm behavior.”
Dr. Robitz said. Other resources include those provided by the Department of Health & Human Services’s Office on Trafficking in Persons.
Dr. Robitz, who is double boarded in psychiatry and family medicine, is with the University of California, Davis. She previously worked for a program for homeless youth and for many programs aimed at helping adult and youth survivors of human trafficking. Dr. Robitz has no disclosures. Dr. Gordon is associate professor of psychiatry in the Menninger department of behavioral health at Baylor College of Medicine, Houston. She is a founding member of the Houston Area Human Trafficking Health Care Consortium. Dr. Gordon has no disclosures.
SAN FRANCISCO – Psychiatrists see and interact with people who are being sex and labor trafficked “all the time” – and can learn more about how to identify these individuals, Rachel Robitz, MD, said at the annual meeting of the American Psychiatric Association.
In an exclusive video, Mollie Gordon, MD, interviewed Dr. Robitz about the intersection between trafficking and mental health. “What scares me the most is some of the statistics about self-harm,” said Dr. Robitz. “One study of sex-trafficked adults found that about 40% of them had a history of a suicide attempt. A study of sex-trafficked minors found that about 30% of them had a history of moderate to severe self-harm behavior.”
Dr. Robitz said. Other resources include those provided by the Department of Health & Human Services’s Office on Trafficking in Persons.
Dr. Robitz, who is double boarded in psychiatry and family medicine, is with the University of California, Davis. She previously worked for a program for homeless youth and for many programs aimed at helping adult and youth survivors of human trafficking. Dr. Robitz has no disclosures. Dr. Gordon is associate professor of psychiatry in the Menninger department of behavioral health at Baylor College of Medicine, Houston. She is a founding member of the Houston Area Human Trafficking Health Care Consortium. Dr. Gordon has no disclosures.
REPORTING FROM APA 2019
Intranasal esketamine combo tied to symptom improvement
Concern raised about drug’s abuse potential
SAN FRANCISCO – In treatment-resistant depression, a switch to a new antidepressant combined with inhaled esketamine (Spravato) led to better symptom improvement than did a switch to a new antidepressant plus placebo, results from a new trial show. The treatment effect of esketamine was modest but had a number needed to treat for remission of just five.
About 30% of patients with major depressive disorder are treatment resistant. They are at risk of suicidal behavior and self-harm during the interval between starting a new medication and onset of efficacy. Esketamine, with its rapid onset of efficacy associated with its stimulation of synaptogenesis through inhibition of the N-methyl-D-aspartate receptor, gained Food and Drug Administration approval in March for the treatment of treatment-resistant depression in adults.
The findings were part of a phase 3 study presented at a press conference at the annual meeting of the American Psychiatric Association and simultaneously published in the American Journal of Psychiatry (2019. doi: 10.1176/appi.ajp.2019.19020172).
Adding esketamine to the start of a new antidepressant was associated with a small improvement in symptoms (effect size, 0.30), and this benefit did not continue to accrue further advantage past the original separation, which led to some skepticism from the author of an accompanying editorial (Am J Psychiatry. 2019 May. doi: 10.1176/appi.ajp.2019.19040423). “The question is, do you need to keep a patient on the drug past 48 hours? There is no statistically significant difference (in patient response) past the first 48 hours. That to me is a concern,” said Alan F. Schatzberg, MD, at the press conference.
Dr. Schatzberg, who is a professor of psychiatry at the Stanford (Calif.) University, also expressed concern about the potential for abuse with esketamine, as well as withdrawal after discontinuation. “I think the drug ought to be used, but it needs to be recommended with considerable caution. We have not answered the many questions that are needed in a drug of potential abuse,” Dr. Schatzberg added.
Study coauthor Michael E. Thase, MD, who also presented at the press conference, discussed the possibility of alterations to the treatment regimen. “I have a hunch you can see this (positive response) within first week or 2, and you can at least concentrate the resource on patients that gain the largest benefit. We can be smarter about it,” said Dr. Thase, who is a professor of psychiatry at the University of Pennsylvania, Philadelphia. He predicted that protocols eventually will be put in place to streamline intranasal ketamine treatment.
Regardless of the effect size, the study produced high remission and response rates in this difficult to treat population, which is welcome news to Gerard Sanacora, MD, PhD, a professor of psychiatry at Yale University, New Haven, Conn., and director of the Yale Depression Research Program. he said in an interview.
In the phase 3 study, researchers randomized 223 patients from five countries to receive esketamine or placebo, along with either an SSRI (escitalopram or sertraline) or a selective norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor (duloxetine or venlafaxine extended release), based on investigator choice.
To be eligible, participants had to have failed two previous trials of antidepressants. After a 4-week observation period, patients began a 4-week regimen of a new antidepressant combined with twice-weekly nasal esketamine or a placebo.
Subjects in the treatment arm received esketamine on day 1 of the treatment phase with a 56-mg dose. On day 4, 45.8% were increased to a dose of 84 mg, and 66.7% were at the 84-mg dose at the end of the treatment phase.
From baseline to day 28, the esketamine group had a greater decrease in Montgomery-Åsberg Depression Rating Scale (MADRS) score (difference of least square means, –4.0; P = .020; effect size, 0.30). A scatter plot of individual MADRS data during that period revealed rapid onset and increasing rapid response during repeated dosing 24 hours after dosing (least square mean between-group difference, –3.3), day 8 (–2.9), day 15 (–2.0), and day 22 (–4.0; P = .020).
Researchers also examined subjects who achieved at least a 50% reduction MADRS score at day 2 and maintained the improvement at day 28, and the difference was not significant between the two groups. At day 2, 16.5% of esketamine patients achieved a 50% or greater reduction in MADRS, compared with 10.8% in the placebo arm, though the significance of this difference could not be determined.
A post hoc analysis showed that 69.3% of participants in the esketamine group had responded by day 28, compared with 52.0% (odds ratio, 2.4; 95% confidence interval, 1.30-4.54; number needed to treat, 6). More subjects in the treatment group were in remission at day 28 (52.5% vs. 31.0%; NNT, 5).
The most common treatment-emergent adverse events in the esketamine group were dizziness (20.9%), dissociation (26.1%), dysgeusia (24.3%), vertigo (26.1%), and nausea (26.1%).
The study was funded by Janssen Research and Development. Dr. Sanacora was an investigator on previous Janssen-funded studies and has consulted for Janssen. Dr. Schatzberg has received research support from and consulted for Janssen, and has consulted for numerous other companies. Dr. Thase has received research support from Janssen and consulted for a wide range of pharmaceutical companies.
SOURCE: Popova V et al. APA 2019, Am J Psychiatry 2019 May. doi: 10.1176/appi.ajp.2019.19020172.
Concern raised about drug’s abuse potential
Concern raised about drug’s abuse potential
SAN FRANCISCO – In treatment-resistant depression, a switch to a new antidepressant combined with inhaled esketamine (Spravato) led to better symptom improvement than did a switch to a new antidepressant plus placebo, results from a new trial show. The treatment effect of esketamine was modest but had a number needed to treat for remission of just five.
About 30% of patients with major depressive disorder are treatment resistant. They are at risk of suicidal behavior and self-harm during the interval between starting a new medication and onset of efficacy. Esketamine, with its rapid onset of efficacy associated with its stimulation of synaptogenesis through inhibition of the N-methyl-D-aspartate receptor, gained Food and Drug Administration approval in March for the treatment of treatment-resistant depression in adults.
The findings were part of a phase 3 study presented at a press conference at the annual meeting of the American Psychiatric Association and simultaneously published in the American Journal of Psychiatry (2019. doi: 10.1176/appi.ajp.2019.19020172).
Adding esketamine to the start of a new antidepressant was associated with a small improvement in symptoms (effect size, 0.30), and this benefit did not continue to accrue further advantage past the original separation, which led to some skepticism from the author of an accompanying editorial (Am J Psychiatry. 2019 May. doi: 10.1176/appi.ajp.2019.19040423). “The question is, do you need to keep a patient on the drug past 48 hours? There is no statistically significant difference (in patient response) past the first 48 hours. That to me is a concern,” said Alan F. Schatzberg, MD, at the press conference.
Dr. Schatzberg, who is a professor of psychiatry at the Stanford (Calif.) University, also expressed concern about the potential for abuse with esketamine, as well as withdrawal after discontinuation. “I think the drug ought to be used, but it needs to be recommended with considerable caution. We have not answered the many questions that are needed in a drug of potential abuse,” Dr. Schatzberg added.
Study coauthor Michael E. Thase, MD, who also presented at the press conference, discussed the possibility of alterations to the treatment regimen. “I have a hunch you can see this (positive response) within first week or 2, and you can at least concentrate the resource on patients that gain the largest benefit. We can be smarter about it,” said Dr. Thase, who is a professor of psychiatry at the University of Pennsylvania, Philadelphia. He predicted that protocols eventually will be put in place to streamline intranasal ketamine treatment.
Regardless of the effect size, the study produced high remission and response rates in this difficult to treat population, which is welcome news to Gerard Sanacora, MD, PhD, a professor of psychiatry at Yale University, New Haven, Conn., and director of the Yale Depression Research Program. he said in an interview.
In the phase 3 study, researchers randomized 223 patients from five countries to receive esketamine or placebo, along with either an SSRI (escitalopram or sertraline) or a selective norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor (duloxetine or venlafaxine extended release), based on investigator choice.
To be eligible, participants had to have failed two previous trials of antidepressants. After a 4-week observation period, patients began a 4-week regimen of a new antidepressant combined with twice-weekly nasal esketamine or a placebo.
Subjects in the treatment arm received esketamine on day 1 of the treatment phase with a 56-mg dose. On day 4, 45.8% were increased to a dose of 84 mg, and 66.7% were at the 84-mg dose at the end of the treatment phase.
From baseline to day 28, the esketamine group had a greater decrease in Montgomery-Åsberg Depression Rating Scale (MADRS) score (difference of least square means, –4.0; P = .020; effect size, 0.30). A scatter plot of individual MADRS data during that period revealed rapid onset and increasing rapid response during repeated dosing 24 hours after dosing (least square mean between-group difference, –3.3), day 8 (–2.9), day 15 (–2.0), and day 22 (–4.0; P = .020).
Researchers also examined subjects who achieved at least a 50% reduction MADRS score at day 2 and maintained the improvement at day 28, and the difference was not significant between the two groups. At day 2, 16.5% of esketamine patients achieved a 50% or greater reduction in MADRS, compared with 10.8% in the placebo arm, though the significance of this difference could not be determined.
A post hoc analysis showed that 69.3% of participants in the esketamine group had responded by day 28, compared with 52.0% (odds ratio, 2.4; 95% confidence interval, 1.30-4.54; number needed to treat, 6). More subjects in the treatment group were in remission at day 28 (52.5% vs. 31.0%; NNT, 5).
The most common treatment-emergent adverse events in the esketamine group were dizziness (20.9%), dissociation (26.1%), dysgeusia (24.3%), vertigo (26.1%), and nausea (26.1%).
The study was funded by Janssen Research and Development. Dr. Sanacora was an investigator on previous Janssen-funded studies and has consulted for Janssen. Dr. Schatzberg has received research support from and consulted for Janssen, and has consulted for numerous other companies. Dr. Thase has received research support from Janssen and consulted for a wide range of pharmaceutical companies.
SOURCE: Popova V et al. APA 2019, Am J Psychiatry 2019 May. doi: 10.1176/appi.ajp.2019.19020172.
SAN FRANCISCO – In treatment-resistant depression, a switch to a new antidepressant combined with inhaled esketamine (Spravato) led to better symptom improvement than did a switch to a new antidepressant plus placebo, results from a new trial show. The treatment effect of esketamine was modest but had a number needed to treat for remission of just five.
About 30% of patients with major depressive disorder are treatment resistant. They are at risk of suicidal behavior and self-harm during the interval between starting a new medication and onset of efficacy. Esketamine, with its rapid onset of efficacy associated with its stimulation of synaptogenesis through inhibition of the N-methyl-D-aspartate receptor, gained Food and Drug Administration approval in March for the treatment of treatment-resistant depression in adults.
The findings were part of a phase 3 study presented at a press conference at the annual meeting of the American Psychiatric Association and simultaneously published in the American Journal of Psychiatry (2019. doi: 10.1176/appi.ajp.2019.19020172).
Adding esketamine to the start of a new antidepressant was associated with a small improvement in symptoms (effect size, 0.30), and this benefit did not continue to accrue further advantage past the original separation, which led to some skepticism from the author of an accompanying editorial (Am J Psychiatry. 2019 May. doi: 10.1176/appi.ajp.2019.19040423). “The question is, do you need to keep a patient on the drug past 48 hours? There is no statistically significant difference (in patient response) past the first 48 hours. That to me is a concern,” said Alan F. Schatzberg, MD, at the press conference.
Dr. Schatzberg, who is a professor of psychiatry at the Stanford (Calif.) University, also expressed concern about the potential for abuse with esketamine, as well as withdrawal after discontinuation. “I think the drug ought to be used, but it needs to be recommended with considerable caution. We have not answered the many questions that are needed in a drug of potential abuse,” Dr. Schatzberg added.
Study coauthor Michael E. Thase, MD, who also presented at the press conference, discussed the possibility of alterations to the treatment regimen. “I have a hunch you can see this (positive response) within first week or 2, and you can at least concentrate the resource on patients that gain the largest benefit. We can be smarter about it,” said Dr. Thase, who is a professor of psychiatry at the University of Pennsylvania, Philadelphia. He predicted that protocols eventually will be put in place to streamline intranasal ketamine treatment.
Regardless of the effect size, the study produced high remission and response rates in this difficult to treat population, which is welcome news to Gerard Sanacora, MD, PhD, a professor of psychiatry at Yale University, New Haven, Conn., and director of the Yale Depression Research Program. he said in an interview.
In the phase 3 study, researchers randomized 223 patients from five countries to receive esketamine or placebo, along with either an SSRI (escitalopram or sertraline) or a selective norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor (duloxetine or venlafaxine extended release), based on investigator choice.
To be eligible, participants had to have failed two previous trials of antidepressants. After a 4-week observation period, patients began a 4-week regimen of a new antidepressant combined with twice-weekly nasal esketamine or a placebo.
Subjects in the treatment arm received esketamine on day 1 of the treatment phase with a 56-mg dose. On day 4, 45.8% were increased to a dose of 84 mg, and 66.7% were at the 84-mg dose at the end of the treatment phase.
From baseline to day 28, the esketamine group had a greater decrease in Montgomery-Åsberg Depression Rating Scale (MADRS) score (difference of least square means, –4.0; P = .020; effect size, 0.30). A scatter plot of individual MADRS data during that period revealed rapid onset and increasing rapid response during repeated dosing 24 hours after dosing (least square mean between-group difference, –3.3), day 8 (–2.9), day 15 (–2.0), and day 22 (–4.0; P = .020).
Researchers also examined subjects who achieved at least a 50% reduction MADRS score at day 2 and maintained the improvement at day 28, and the difference was not significant between the two groups. At day 2, 16.5% of esketamine patients achieved a 50% or greater reduction in MADRS, compared with 10.8% in the placebo arm, though the significance of this difference could not be determined.
A post hoc analysis showed that 69.3% of participants in the esketamine group had responded by day 28, compared with 52.0% (odds ratio, 2.4; 95% confidence interval, 1.30-4.54; number needed to treat, 6). More subjects in the treatment group were in remission at day 28 (52.5% vs. 31.0%; NNT, 5).
The most common treatment-emergent adverse events in the esketamine group were dizziness (20.9%), dissociation (26.1%), dysgeusia (24.3%), vertigo (26.1%), and nausea (26.1%).
The study was funded by Janssen Research and Development. Dr. Sanacora was an investigator on previous Janssen-funded studies and has consulted for Janssen. Dr. Schatzberg has received research support from and consulted for Janssen, and has consulted for numerous other companies. Dr. Thase has received research support from Janssen and consulted for a wide range of pharmaceutical companies.
SOURCE: Popova V et al. APA 2019, Am J Psychiatry 2019 May. doi: 10.1176/appi.ajp.2019.19020172.
REPORTING FROM APA 2019
Key clinical point: Pivotal study reports a modest benefit to symptoms when inhaled esketamine is combined with a new antidepressant in treatment-resistant depression.
Major finding: Combining esketamine with a new antidepressant led to a small improvement in symptoms, compared with the antidepressant alone (effect size, 0.30).
Study details: Results of a randomized, controlled trial (n = 223).
Disclosures: The study was funded by Janssen Research and Development. Dr. Sanacora was an investigator on previous Janssen-funded studies and has consulted for Janssen. Dr. Schatzberg has received research support from and consulted for Janssen, and has consulted for numerous other companies. Dr. Thase has received research support from Janssen and consulted for a wide range of pharmaceutical companies.
Source: Popova V et al. APA 2019, Am J Psychiatry. 2019 May. doi: 10.1176/appi.ajp.2019.19020172.
The effects persist for children who witnessed 9/11
SAN FRANCISCO – according to a case-control study presented at the American Psychiatric Association annual meeting.
The investigation included 942 people who, as children under 18 years old, were in school below Canal Street in lower Manhattan when the World Trade Center was attacked. They saw the towers collapse and were evacuated from the area, but did not lose a parent. Now 18-36 years old, they were interviewed in their homes and asked to filled out questionnaires about psychiatric and physical problems. The outcomes were compared with 563 age- and gender-matched controls who were in school in Queens at the time.
In turns out that “it made a huge difference whether you were there or not. Being there had much more impact than hearing about it or watching it on TV,” said lead investigator Lawrence Amsel, MD, an assistant professor of clinical psychiatry at Columbia University in New York.
Adults who witnessed the attacks as children were more than twice as likely to have panic disorder, marijuana use disorder, and separation anxiety, which is uncommon in adults; anxiety disorders were more prevalent, as well.
They also were almost half as likely to be living with a spouse or partner, and half as likely to be living independently. “That kind of goes along with the separation anxiety; these kids were more likely to be afraid of moving away from their family and breaking out into their own lives,” Dr. Amsel said.
Overall, 36% had a psychiatric disorder, and 27% had a physical problem, such as diabetes, asthma, or eczema; 14% had both. Among adults who were in Queens during the attacks, 28% had a psychiatric disorder, and 11% a physical problem; 4% were comorbid.
The increased odds of physical-psychiatric comorbidity among witnesses (adjusted odds ratio, 4.60; 95% confidence interval, 2.75- 7.71; P less than .0001) “was not due simply to an increase in physical conditions,” according to the study team.
“This was a single event,” Dr. Amsel said, but for children who witnessed it, “it’s had effects for decades. There were huge amounts of money sent in, and lots of health care for kids who were down there, but despite that, we have this. We think the PTSD morphed into” long-term issues, Dr. Amsel said.
“We know that one of the reasons people get psychiatric disorders” after trauma “is that they generalize the fear; the message to your brain is that everything is dangerous. You’ve got to intervene there and break the association between the fear system and everything else, so that life is still safe,” he said.
There’s an added element with human violence. “Life may be unsafe” after a natural disaster, “but you know that human beings are good and helpful. With a terrorist attack, you stop trusting people,” he said.
Cognitive behavioral therapy could help, among other approaches. It also might be helpful to teach resilience to schoolchildren, just like biology and algebra, he said.
Cases and controls were evenly split between the sexes. Just over 40% of subjects in both groups were white, followed by Hispanics, Asians, and blacks. The majority of households were middle income.
The next step is to break the results down by age, ethnicity, socioeconomic factors, and support systems. The team will run blood work and heart and lung tests on the subjects to nail down the physical problems reported by witnesses. There are concerns about the lingering effects of the dust plume.
The work is funded by the federal government. Dr. Amsel didn’t have any relevant financial disclosures.
SAN FRANCISCO – according to a case-control study presented at the American Psychiatric Association annual meeting.
The investigation included 942 people who, as children under 18 years old, were in school below Canal Street in lower Manhattan when the World Trade Center was attacked. They saw the towers collapse and were evacuated from the area, but did not lose a parent. Now 18-36 years old, they were interviewed in their homes and asked to filled out questionnaires about psychiatric and physical problems. The outcomes were compared with 563 age- and gender-matched controls who were in school in Queens at the time.
In turns out that “it made a huge difference whether you were there or not. Being there had much more impact than hearing about it or watching it on TV,” said lead investigator Lawrence Amsel, MD, an assistant professor of clinical psychiatry at Columbia University in New York.
Adults who witnessed the attacks as children were more than twice as likely to have panic disorder, marijuana use disorder, and separation anxiety, which is uncommon in adults; anxiety disorders were more prevalent, as well.
They also were almost half as likely to be living with a spouse or partner, and half as likely to be living independently. “That kind of goes along with the separation anxiety; these kids were more likely to be afraid of moving away from their family and breaking out into their own lives,” Dr. Amsel said.
Overall, 36% had a psychiatric disorder, and 27% had a physical problem, such as diabetes, asthma, or eczema; 14% had both. Among adults who were in Queens during the attacks, 28% had a psychiatric disorder, and 11% a physical problem; 4% were comorbid.
The increased odds of physical-psychiatric comorbidity among witnesses (adjusted odds ratio, 4.60; 95% confidence interval, 2.75- 7.71; P less than .0001) “was not due simply to an increase in physical conditions,” according to the study team.
“This was a single event,” Dr. Amsel said, but for children who witnessed it, “it’s had effects for decades. There were huge amounts of money sent in, and lots of health care for kids who were down there, but despite that, we have this. We think the PTSD morphed into” long-term issues, Dr. Amsel said.
“We know that one of the reasons people get psychiatric disorders” after trauma “is that they generalize the fear; the message to your brain is that everything is dangerous. You’ve got to intervene there and break the association between the fear system and everything else, so that life is still safe,” he said.
There’s an added element with human violence. “Life may be unsafe” after a natural disaster, “but you know that human beings are good and helpful. With a terrorist attack, you stop trusting people,” he said.
Cognitive behavioral therapy could help, among other approaches. It also might be helpful to teach resilience to schoolchildren, just like biology and algebra, he said.
Cases and controls were evenly split between the sexes. Just over 40% of subjects in both groups were white, followed by Hispanics, Asians, and blacks. The majority of households were middle income.
The next step is to break the results down by age, ethnicity, socioeconomic factors, and support systems. The team will run blood work and heart and lung tests on the subjects to nail down the physical problems reported by witnesses. There are concerns about the lingering effects of the dust plume.
The work is funded by the federal government. Dr. Amsel didn’t have any relevant financial disclosures.
SAN FRANCISCO – according to a case-control study presented at the American Psychiatric Association annual meeting.
The investigation included 942 people who, as children under 18 years old, were in school below Canal Street in lower Manhattan when the World Trade Center was attacked. They saw the towers collapse and were evacuated from the area, but did not lose a parent. Now 18-36 years old, they were interviewed in their homes and asked to filled out questionnaires about psychiatric and physical problems. The outcomes were compared with 563 age- and gender-matched controls who were in school in Queens at the time.
In turns out that “it made a huge difference whether you were there or not. Being there had much more impact than hearing about it or watching it on TV,” said lead investigator Lawrence Amsel, MD, an assistant professor of clinical psychiatry at Columbia University in New York.
Adults who witnessed the attacks as children were more than twice as likely to have panic disorder, marijuana use disorder, and separation anxiety, which is uncommon in adults; anxiety disorders were more prevalent, as well.
They also were almost half as likely to be living with a spouse or partner, and half as likely to be living independently. “That kind of goes along with the separation anxiety; these kids were more likely to be afraid of moving away from their family and breaking out into their own lives,” Dr. Amsel said.
Overall, 36% had a psychiatric disorder, and 27% had a physical problem, such as diabetes, asthma, or eczema; 14% had both. Among adults who were in Queens during the attacks, 28% had a psychiatric disorder, and 11% a physical problem; 4% were comorbid.
The increased odds of physical-psychiatric comorbidity among witnesses (adjusted odds ratio, 4.60; 95% confidence interval, 2.75- 7.71; P less than .0001) “was not due simply to an increase in physical conditions,” according to the study team.
“This was a single event,” Dr. Amsel said, but for children who witnessed it, “it’s had effects for decades. There were huge amounts of money sent in, and lots of health care for kids who were down there, but despite that, we have this. We think the PTSD morphed into” long-term issues, Dr. Amsel said.
“We know that one of the reasons people get psychiatric disorders” after trauma “is that they generalize the fear; the message to your brain is that everything is dangerous. You’ve got to intervene there and break the association between the fear system and everything else, so that life is still safe,” he said.
There’s an added element with human violence. “Life may be unsafe” after a natural disaster, “but you know that human beings are good and helpful. With a terrorist attack, you stop trusting people,” he said.
Cognitive behavioral therapy could help, among other approaches. It also might be helpful to teach resilience to schoolchildren, just like biology and algebra, he said.
Cases and controls were evenly split between the sexes. Just over 40% of subjects in both groups were white, followed by Hispanics, Asians, and blacks. The majority of households were middle income.
The next step is to break the results down by age, ethnicity, socioeconomic factors, and support systems. The team will run blood work and heart and lung tests on the subjects to nail down the physical problems reported by witnesses. There are concerns about the lingering effects of the dust plume.
The work is funded by the federal government. Dr. Amsel didn’t have any relevant financial disclosures.
REPORTING FROM APA 2019