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Beyond Scope Creep: Why Physicians and PAs Should Come Together for Patients
Over the past few years, many states have attempted to address the ongoing shortage of healthcare workers by introducing new bills to increase the scope of practice for nurse practitioners (NPs) and physician assistants (PAs). The goal of each bill was to improve access to care, particularly for patients who may live in areas where it’s difficult to find a doctor.
In response, the American Medical Association (AMA) launched a targeted campaign to fight “scope creep.” Their goal was to gain the momentum necessary to block proposed legislation to modify or expand the practice authority of nonphysicians, including PAs. A spokesperson for the organization told this news organization that the AMA “greatly values and respects the contributions of PAs as important members of the healthcare team” but emphasized that they do not have the same “skill set or breadth of experience of physicians.”
As such, the AMA argued that expanded practice authority would not only dismantle physician-led care teams but also ultimately lead to higher costs and lower-quality patient care.
The AMA has since launched a large-scale advocacy effort to fight practice expansion legislation — and has a specific page on its website to highlight those efforts. In addition, they have authored model legislation, talking points for AMA members, and a widely read article in AMA News to help them in what they call a “fight for physicians.”
These resources have also been disseminated to the greater healthcare stakeholder community.
Marilyn Suri, PA-C, chief operating officer and senior executive for Advanced Practice Professional Affairs at Vincenzo Novara MDPA and Associates, a critical care pulmonary medicine practice in Miami, Florida, said she found the AMA’s campaign to be “very misleading.”
“PAs are created in the image of physicians to help manage the physician shortage. We are trained very rigorously — to diagnose illness, develop treatment plans, and prescribe medications,” she said. “We’re not trying to expand our scope. We are trying to eliminate or lessen barriers that prevent patients from getting access to care.”
Suri is not alone. Last summer, the American Academy of Physician Associates (AAPA) requested a meeting with the AMA to find ways for the two organizations to collaborate to improve care delivery — as well as find common ground to address issues regarding patient access to care. When the AMA did not respond, the AAPA sent a second letter in September 2024, reiterating their request for a meeting.
That correspondence also included a letter, signed by more than 8000 PAs from across the country, calling for an end to what the AAPA refers to as “damaging rhetoric,” as well as data from a recent survey of PAs regarding the fallout of AMA’s scope creep messaging.
Those survey results highlighted that the vast majority of PAs surveyed feel that the AMA is doing more than just attacking proposed legislation: They believe the association is negatively influencing patients’ understanding of PA qualifications, ultimately affecting their ability to provide care.
“The campaign is unintentionally harming patients by suggesting we are doing more than what we are trained to do,” said Elisa Hock, PA-C, a behavioral health PA in Texas. “And when you work in a place with limited resources, medically speaking — including limited access to providers — this kind of campaign is really detrimental to helping patients.”
Lisa M. Gables, CEO of the AAPA, said the organization is “deeply disappointed” in the AMA’s lack of response to their letters thus far — but remains committed to working with the organization to bring forward new solutions to address healthcare’s most pressing challenges.
“AAPA remains committed to pushing for modernization of practice laws to ensure all providers can practice medicine to the fullest extent of their training, education, and experience,” she said. “That is what patients deserve and want.”
Hock agreed. She told this news organization that the public is not always aware of what PAs can offer in terms of patient care. That said, she believes newer generations of physicians understand the value of PAs and the many skills they bring to the table.
“I’ve been doing this for 17 years, and it’s been an uphill battle, at times, to educate the public about what PAs can and can’t do,” she explained. “To throw more mud in the mix that will confuse patients more about what we do doesn’t help. Healthcare works best with a team-based approach. And that team has been and always will be led by the physician. We are aware of our role and our limitations. But we also know what we can offer patients, especially in areas like El Paso, where there is a real shortage of providers.”
With a growing aging population — and the physician shortage expected to increase in the coming decade — Suri hopes that the AMA will accept AAPA’s invitation to meet — because no one wins with this kind of healthcare infighting. In fact, she said patients will suffer because of it. She hopes that future discussions and collaborations can show providers and patients what team-based healthcare can offer.
“I think it’s important for those in healthcare to be aware that none of us work alone. Even physicians collaborate with other subspecialties, as well as nurses and other healthcare professionals,” said Suri.
A version of this article appeared on Medscape.com.
Over the past few years, many states have attempted to address the ongoing shortage of healthcare workers by introducing new bills to increase the scope of practice for nurse practitioners (NPs) and physician assistants (PAs). The goal of each bill was to improve access to care, particularly for patients who may live in areas where it’s difficult to find a doctor.
In response, the American Medical Association (AMA) launched a targeted campaign to fight “scope creep.” Their goal was to gain the momentum necessary to block proposed legislation to modify or expand the practice authority of nonphysicians, including PAs. A spokesperson for the organization told this news organization that the AMA “greatly values and respects the contributions of PAs as important members of the healthcare team” but emphasized that they do not have the same “skill set or breadth of experience of physicians.”
As such, the AMA argued that expanded practice authority would not only dismantle physician-led care teams but also ultimately lead to higher costs and lower-quality patient care.
The AMA has since launched a large-scale advocacy effort to fight practice expansion legislation — and has a specific page on its website to highlight those efforts. In addition, they have authored model legislation, talking points for AMA members, and a widely read article in AMA News to help them in what they call a “fight for physicians.”
These resources have also been disseminated to the greater healthcare stakeholder community.
Marilyn Suri, PA-C, chief operating officer and senior executive for Advanced Practice Professional Affairs at Vincenzo Novara MDPA and Associates, a critical care pulmonary medicine practice in Miami, Florida, said she found the AMA’s campaign to be “very misleading.”
“PAs are created in the image of physicians to help manage the physician shortage. We are trained very rigorously — to diagnose illness, develop treatment plans, and prescribe medications,” she said. “We’re not trying to expand our scope. We are trying to eliminate or lessen barriers that prevent patients from getting access to care.”
Suri is not alone. Last summer, the American Academy of Physician Associates (AAPA) requested a meeting with the AMA to find ways for the two organizations to collaborate to improve care delivery — as well as find common ground to address issues regarding patient access to care. When the AMA did not respond, the AAPA sent a second letter in September 2024, reiterating their request for a meeting.
That correspondence also included a letter, signed by more than 8000 PAs from across the country, calling for an end to what the AAPA refers to as “damaging rhetoric,” as well as data from a recent survey of PAs regarding the fallout of AMA’s scope creep messaging.
Those survey results highlighted that the vast majority of PAs surveyed feel that the AMA is doing more than just attacking proposed legislation: They believe the association is negatively influencing patients’ understanding of PA qualifications, ultimately affecting their ability to provide care.
“The campaign is unintentionally harming patients by suggesting we are doing more than what we are trained to do,” said Elisa Hock, PA-C, a behavioral health PA in Texas. “And when you work in a place with limited resources, medically speaking — including limited access to providers — this kind of campaign is really detrimental to helping patients.”
Lisa M. Gables, CEO of the AAPA, said the organization is “deeply disappointed” in the AMA’s lack of response to their letters thus far — but remains committed to working with the organization to bring forward new solutions to address healthcare’s most pressing challenges.
“AAPA remains committed to pushing for modernization of practice laws to ensure all providers can practice medicine to the fullest extent of their training, education, and experience,” she said. “That is what patients deserve and want.”
Hock agreed. She told this news organization that the public is not always aware of what PAs can offer in terms of patient care. That said, she believes newer generations of physicians understand the value of PAs and the many skills they bring to the table.
“I’ve been doing this for 17 years, and it’s been an uphill battle, at times, to educate the public about what PAs can and can’t do,” she explained. “To throw more mud in the mix that will confuse patients more about what we do doesn’t help. Healthcare works best with a team-based approach. And that team has been and always will be led by the physician. We are aware of our role and our limitations. But we also know what we can offer patients, especially in areas like El Paso, where there is a real shortage of providers.”
With a growing aging population — and the physician shortage expected to increase in the coming decade — Suri hopes that the AMA will accept AAPA’s invitation to meet — because no one wins with this kind of healthcare infighting. In fact, she said patients will suffer because of it. She hopes that future discussions and collaborations can show providers and patients what team-based healthcare can offer.
“I think it’s important for those in healthcare to be aware that none of us work alone. Even physicians collaborate with other subspecialties, as well as nurses and other healthcare professionals,” said Suri.
A version of this article appeared on Medscape.com.
Over the past few years, many states have attempted to address the ongoing shortage of healthcare workers by introducing new bills to increase the scope of practice for nurse practitioners (NPs) and physician assistants (PAs). The goal of each bill was to improve access to care, particularly for patients who may live in areas where it’s difficult to find a doctor.
In response, the American Medical Association (AMA) launched a targeted campaign to fight “scope creep.” Their goal was to gain the momentum necessary to block proposed legislation to modify or expand the practice authority of nonphysicians, including PAs. A spokesperson for the organization told this news organization that the AMA “greatly values and respects the contributions of PAs as important members of the healthcare team” but emphasized that they do not have the same “skill set or breadth of experience of physicians.”
As such, the AMA argued that expanded practice authority would not only dismantle physician-led care teams but also ultimately lead to higher costs and lower-quality patient care.
The AMA has since launched a large-scale advocacy effort to fight practice expansion legislation — and has a specific page on its website to highlight those efforts. In addition, they have authored model legislation, talking points for AMA members, and a widely read article in AMA News to help them in what they call a “fight for physicians.”
These resources have also been disseminated to the greater healthcare stakeholder community.
Marilyn Suri, PA-C, chief operating officer and senior executive for Advanced Practice Professional Affairs at Vincenzo Novara MDPA and Associates, a critical care pulmonary medicine practice in Miami, Florida, said she found the AMA’s campaign to be “very misleading.”
“PAs are created in the image of physicians to help manage the physician shortage. We are trained very rigorously — to diagnose illness, develop treatment plans, and prescribe medications,” she said. “We’re not trying to expand our scope. We are trying to eliminate or lessen barriers that prevent patients from getting access to care.”
Suri is not alone. Last summer, the American Academy of Physician Associates (AAPA) requested a meeting with the AMA to find ways for the two organizations to collaborate to improve care delivery — as well as find common ground to address issues regarding patient access to care. When the AMA did not respond, the AAPA sent a second letter in September 2024, reiterating their request for a meeting.
That correspondence also included a letter, signed by more than 8000 PAs from across the country, calling for an end to what the AAPA refers to as “damaging rhetoric,” as well as data from a recent survey of PAs regarding the fallout of AMA’s scope creep messaging.
Those survey results highlighted that the vast majority of PAs surveyed feel that the AMA is doing more than just attacking proposed legislation: They believe the association is negatively influencing patients’ understanding of PA qualifications, ultimately affecting their ability to provide care.
“The campaign is unintentionally harming patients by suggesting we are doing more than what we are trained to do,” said Elisa Hock, PA-C, a behavioral health PA in Texas. “And when you work in a place with limited resources, medically speaking — including limited access to providers — this kind of campaign is really detrimental to helping patients.”
Lisa M. Gables, CEO of the AAPA, said the organization is “deeply disappointed” in the AMA’s lack of response to their letters thus far — but remains committed to working with the organization to bring forward new solutions to address healthcare’s most pressing challenges.
“AAPA remains committed to pushing for modernization of practice laws to ensure all providers can practice medicine to the fullest extent of their training, education, and experience,” she said. “That is what patients deserve and want.”
Hock agreed. She told this news organization that the public is not always aware of what PAs can offer in terms of patient care. That said, she believes newer generations of physicians understand the value of PAs and the many skills they bring to the table.
“I’ve been doing this for 17 years, and it’s been an uphill battle, at times, to educate the public about what PAs can and can’t do,” she explained. “To throw more mud in the mix that will confuse patients more about what we do doesn’t help. Healthcare works best with a team-based approach. And that team has been and always will be led by the physician. We are aware of our role and our limitations. But we also know what we can offer patients, especially in areas like El Paso, where there is a real shortage of providers.”
With a growing aging population — and the physician shortage expected to increase in the coming decade — Suri hopes that the AMA will accept AAPA’s invitation to meet — because no one wins with this kind of healthcare infighting. In fact, she said patients will suffer because of it. She hopes that future discussions and collaborations can show providers and patients what team-based healthcare can offer.
“I think it’s important for those in healthcare to be aware that none of us work alone. Even physicians collaborate with other subspecialties, as well as nurses and other healthcare professionals,” said Suri.
A version of this article appeared on Medscape.com.
Beyond the Title: How PAs Handle the Burden of MD-Level Responsibilities
Within the physician assistant (PA) community, many PAs have expressed the heavy weight of their job expectation and their subsequent feelings of discontent.
Mirela Bruza-Augatis, PhD, MS, PA-C, a researcher at the National Commission on Certification of Physician Assistants, said the sentiment is similar to what she’s heard from colleagues, as well as seen in her own research examining PA work-life balance.
“Unfortunately, part of this is just the culture of medicine — and other healthcare workers report similar experiences. The patient comes first, and you are secondary,” she said. “You have to make do with the resources you have, and that’s not always enough.”
Yet, despite the challenges of working as a PA in today’s healthcare industry, many are finding ways not just to survive but to thrive. Brian McCambley, DHSc, PA-C, who works as both an emergency medicine PA and a system wellness officer at Nuvance Health, has been looking at ways to improve morale (and, consequently, lower turnover rates), especially among new PA recruits.
He said that the first step is finding the right practice environment. He encourages even experienced PAs to take the time to understand the culture of any practice they consider joining — and ask a lot of questions about what kind of support is available.
“Ask the right questions from the very beginning. What does the job truly entail? What is the culture within the group that you’ll be joining? Talk to the entire team to get a real sense of what’s going on there day to day,” he said. “One benefit of being a PA is that most of us are trained as generalists. We have a lot of mobility between specialties. If the work hours, culture, or fit doesn’t work, it is possible to morph and try something different.”
See How Other PAs Are Managing
Dr. Bruza-Augatis added that finding peer support is also beneficial. She said being able to discuss your experiences with other PAs, both within your workplace and outside of it, offers more than just the benefit of knowing you are not alone.
“When you talk to other colleagues who have had similar experiences, they may have found solutions to help,” she said. “The solution that works for one person may not work for everyone. But it can at least offer some ideas and help you focus on the things you may be able to control and change.”
Raquelle Akavan, DMSc, PA-C, founder of the popular PA Moms® group, agreed on both points. She said that finding both institutional and personal support is remarkably helpful in dealing with the stressors most PAs face both at work and home. With that kind of support in place, you can start to set the appropriate boundaries to help ensure you aren’t feeling overwhelmed by all the expectations placed on you.
“This is crucial to finding good work-life integration,” she said. “You can set boundaries with both your patients and your managers. You can carve out time for your family and let your job know that you won’t be taking calls between 5:00 pm and 9:00 pm. You can go to your manager and let them know what you need to do your job well — whether it’s a scribe, continuing medical education, or help managing the workload.”
Speak Up
Advocating for yourself is key, said Hope Cook, PA-C, who works as both a PA in a dermatology practice and as a licensed life coach. She said that taking the time to be self-aware of the work stressors that negatively affect you allows you to “give yourself permission” to do something about them.
“Like any profession, you have to know your limits,” she said. “If you need more collaboration from your team, you need to figure out how to get that. You need to ask for it. If you feel like you have insufficient training to deal with the complexity of the patients who are coming to see you, you need to talk to the practice about how to fix that. It’s important to let people know what support you need. And, if they aren’t going to help provide it, understand that it may be time to go elsewhere.”
None of these things are necessarily easy, said Dr. McCambley. But replacing a PA costs a practice significant time and money. So, finding ways to promote growth and resilience early on in your career will help protect you from later burnout, and save the healthcare organization in the long run, too. He believes Nuvance has had great success in their efforts to support clinician wellness across the board by having PAs contribute to leadership discussions and decisions.
“When you can get with like-minded folks and sit with hospital administration to talk about the best ways to get PAs intermixed with the medical staff and how to support them in their roles, you can make a difference,” he told this news organization. “I’ve been at my healthcare institution for 26 years. We PAs didn’t really have a big voice at the beginning. But, little by little, by having important discussions with our leadership, we’ve been able to show our medical staff that PAs bring something really important to the table — and that it benefits everyone when we support them.”
A version of this article first appeared on Medscape.com.
Within the physician assistant (PA) community, many PAs have expressed the heavy weight of their job expectation and their subsequent feelings of discontent.
Mirela Bruza-Augatis, PhD, MS, PA-C, a researcher at the National Commission on Certification of Physician Assistants, said the sentiment is similar to what she’s heard from colleagues, as well as seen in her own research examining PA work-life balance.
“Unfortunately, part of this is just the culture of medicine — and other healthcare workers report similar experiences. The patient comes first, and you are secondary,” she said. “You have to make do with the resources you have, and that’s not always enough.”
Yet, despite the challenges of working as a PA in today’s healthcare industry, many are finding ways not just to survive but to thrive. Brian McCambley, DHSc, PA-C, who works as both an emergency medicine PA and a system wellness officer at Nuvance Health, has been looking at ways to improve morale (and, consequently, lower turnover rates), especially among new PA recruits.
He said that the first step is finding the right practice environment. He encourages even experienced PAs to take the time to understand the culture of any practice they consider joining — and ask a lot of questions about what kind of support is available.
“Ask the right questions from the very beginning. What does the job truly entail? What is the culture within the group that you’ll be joining? Talk to the entire team to get a real sense of what’s going on there day to day,” he said. “One benefit of being a PA is that most of us are trained as generalists. We have a lot of mobility between specialties. If the work hours, culture, or fit doesn’t work, it is possible to morph and try something different.”
See How Other PAs Are Managing
Dr. Bruza-Augatis added that finding peer support is also beneficial. She said being able to discuss your experiences with other PAs, both within your workplace and outside of it, offers more than just the benefit of knowing you are not alone.
“When you talk to other colleagues who have had similar experiences, they may have found solutions to help,” she said. “The solution that works for one person may not work for everyone. But it can at least offer some ideas and help you focus on the things you may be able to control and change.”
Raquelle Akavan, DMSc, PA-C, founder of the popular PA Moms® group, agreed on both points. She said that finding both institutional and personal support is remarkably helpful in dealing with the stressors most PAs face both at work and home. With that kind of support in place, you can start to set the appropriate boundaries to help ensure you aren’t feeling overwhelmed by all the expectations placed on you.
“This is crucial to finding good work-life integration,” she said. “You can set boundaries with both your patients and your managers. You can carve out time for your family and let your job know that you won’t be taking calls between 5:00 pm and 9:00 pm. You can go to your manager and let them know what you need to do your job well — whether it’s a scribe, continuing medical education, or help managing the workload.”
Speak Up
Advocating for yourself is key, said Hope Cook, PA-C, who works as both a PA in a dermatology practice and as a licensed life coach. She said that taking the time to be self-aware of the work stressors that negatively affect you allows you to “give yourself permission” to do something about them.
“Like any profession, you have to know your limits,” she said. “If you need more collaboration from your team, you need to figure out how to get that. You need to ask for it. If you feel like you have insufficient training to deal with the complexity of the patients who are coming to see you, you need to talk to the practice about how to fix that. It’s important to let people know what support you need. And, if they aren’t going to help provide it, understand that it may be time to go elsewhere.”
None of these things are necessarily easy, said Dr. McCambley. But replacing a PA costs a practice significant time and money. So, finding ways to promote growth and resilience early on in your career will help protect you from later burnout, and save the healthcare organization in the long run, too. He believes Nuvance has had great success in their efforts to support clinician wellness across the board by having PAs contribute to leadership discussions and decisions.
“When you can get with like-minded folks and sit with hospital administration to talk about the best ways to get PAs intermixed with the medical staff and how to support them in their roles, you can make a difference,” he told this news organization. “I’ve been at my healthcare institution for 26 years. We PAs didn’t really have a big voice at the beginning. But, little by little, by having important discussions with our leadership, we’ve been able to show our medical staff that PAs bring something really important to the table — and that it benefits everyone when we support them.”
A version of this article first appeared on Medscape.com.
Within the physician assistant (PA) community, many PAs have expressed the heavy weight of their job expectation and their subsequent feelings of discontent.
Mirela Bruza-Augatis, PhD, MS, PA-C, a researcher at the National Commission on Certification of Physician Assistants, said the sentiment is similar to what she’s heard from colleagues, as well as seen in her own research examining PA work-life balance.
“Unfortunately, part of this is just the culture of medicine — and other healthcare workers report similar experiences. The patient comes first, and you are secondary,” she said. “You have to make do with the resources you have, and that’s not always enough.”
Yet, despite the challenges of working as a PA in today’s healthcare industry, many are finding ways not just to survive but to thrive. Brian McCambley, DHSc, PA-C, who works as both an emergency medicine PA and a system wellness officer at Nuvance Health, has been looking at ways to improve morale (and, consequently, lower turnover rates), especially among new PA recruits.
He said that the first step is finding the right practice environment. He encourages even experienced PAs to take the time to understand the culture of any practice they consider joining — and ask a lot of questions about what kind of support is available.
“Ask the right questions from the very beginning. What does the job truly entail? What is the culture within the group that you’ll be joining? Talk to the entire team to get a real sense of what’s going on there day to day,” he said. “One benefit of being a PA is that most of us are trained as generalists. We have a lot of mobility between specialties. If the work hours, culture, or fit doesn’t work, it is possible to morph and try something different.”
See How Other PAs Are Managing
Dr. Bruza-Augatis added that finding peer support is also beneficial. She said being able to discuss your experiences with other PAs, both within your workplace and outside of it, offers more than just the benefit of knowing you are not alone.
“When you talk to other colleagues who have had similar experiences, they may have found solutions to help,” she said. “The solution that works for one person may not work for everyone. But it can at least offer some ideas and help you focus on the things you may be able to control and change.”
Raquelle Akavan, DMSc, PA-C, founder of the popular PA Moms® group, agreed on both points. She said that finding both institutional and personal support is remarkably helpful in dealing with the stressors most PAs face both at work and home. With that kind of support in place, you can start to set the appropriate boundaries to help ensure you aren’t feeling overwhelmed by all the expectations placed on you.
“This is crucial to finding good work-life integration,” she said. “You can set boundaries with both your patients and your managers. You can carve out time for your family and let your job know that you won’t be taking calls between 5:00 pm and 9:00 pm. You can go to your manager and let them know what you need to do your job well — whether it’s a scribe, continuing medical education, or help managing the workload.”
Speak Up
Advocating for yourself is key, said Hope Cook, PA-C, who works as both a PA in a dermatology practice and as a licensed life coach. She said that taking the time to be self-aware of the work stressors that negatively affect you allows you to “give yourself permission” to do something about them.
“Like any profession, you have to know your limits,” she said. “If you need more collaboration from your team, you need to figure out how to get that. You need to ask for it. If you feel like you have insufficient training to deal with the complexity of the patients who are coming to see you, you need to talk to the practice about how to fix that. It’s important to let people know what support you need. And, if they aren’t going to help provide it, understand that it may be time to go elsewhere.”
None of these things are necessarily easy, said Dr. McCambley. But replacing a PA costs a practice significant time and money. So, finding ways to promote growth and resilience early on in your career will help protect you from later burnout, and save the healthcare organization in the long run, too. He believes Nuvance has had great success in their efforts to support clinician wellness across the board by having PAs contribute to leadership discussions and decisions.
“When you can get with like-minded folks and sit with hospital administration to talk about the best ways to get PAs intermixed with the medical staff and how to support them in their roles, you can make a difference,” he told this news organization. “I’ve been at my healthcare institution for 26 years. We PAs didn’t really have a big voice at the beginning. But, little by little, by having important discussions with our leadership, we’ve been able to show our medical staff that PAs bring something really important to the table — and that it benefits everyone when we support them.”
A version of this article first appeared on Medscape.com.